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I'm so disappointed that our* company is peddling this bullshit :( I'm going to raise it internally. (yes, I'm an employee)

by pornel 5y ago

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
> our company Are you an employee? Or, speaking generally here to a company this community commonly roots for? I guess either way. What’s your beef with them experimenting to try new and wild ideas? Edit: > (yes, I'm an employee) If true, wow. If not, troll… Publicly trashing another co-workers work/team is in poor taste, immature, and creates a hostile work environment — if you agree or not with the tech or direction. I hope you get what’s coming to you. Classic Dev God ego and suggest maybe disconnecting online a bit and apologizing to them. I can’t imagine Cloudflare’s hiring team likes to see this type of hostile banter allowed.
- floatboth 5y ago
  > new and wild ideas Only "wild" as in "stupid". Ethereum has been around for ages, and it still has nothing to do with "decentralizing the web". Its advanced functionality is only used for building things like automated Ponzi schemes.
rchaud 5y ago
I would suggest editing it to provide more detail on IPFS and existing methods of decentralization like torrents, which regular people can understand and use, and whose reputation is free of "get rich quick" snake oil.
sneak 5y ago
I don't see anything being peddled in TFA. Your comment seems like ideological bias.
dgb23 5y ago
Hey, I agree with you! Even though I think it's bad etiquette to write a comment like that, I was kind of relieved to read it. I have almost always been impressed with Cloudflare's blog posts (and documentation). Good and explicit marketing, clear language, interesting and smart products. Just really attractive stuff that demonstrates competency. This one feels like a mumbo-jumbo of cryptocurrency buzzwords that no one needs or even wants to hear. Just thinking about the term "Web3" pains me to the bones.
- WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
  > bad etiquette to write a comment like that I guess I don’t understand the standard for etiquette. One of the first comments of an announcement by Cloudflare is by an employee of Cloudflare publicly calling it “peddling bullshit” with no additional context to what or why. It’s not fair to the authors and the people who are working on this. Calling another researcher and team’s work “bullshit” in a forum highly trafficked by the CEO and CFO and then saying you will raise it internally, is not “raising it internally” but “slandering it publicly” and flexing your high value / can’t touch this employee muscles at everyone else. It’s a giant middle finger to the company and teams from a jerk employee. Cloudflare is one of my favorite companies to follow, but I had no idea how toxic it was working there for some. Definitely enlightening.
  - pornel 5y ago
    That was my raw reaction. I wouldn't speak up publicly if it was merely some weak technology or overhyped product. Such things would be fixable, and at worst only affect people who use them. Blockchains are way worse than that. I think PoW cryptocurrencies are way past any benefit of the doubt, are actively harmful on a large scale, and any promotion of them is shameful. Cloudflare crossed the line here. For Cloudflare this may be just yet another marketing and SEO piece, but it is giving legitimacy of a large tech company to the blockchain nonsense. People researching the buzzwords are going to see that a successful company powering a big chunk of the actual Web says "Web3" and NFTs are legitimate. This blog post is going to end up in a thousand pitch decks for more buzzword-salad ponzi-scheme tokens, and drive even more coal-purchasing fiat money into the massive waste of energy and silicon. The future of the Web may very well be in p2p and content-addressable protocols, and Cloudflare is likely to be exploring it, but it's absolutely irresponsible to even suggest PoW blockchains to be any part of it.
    - phpnode 5y ago
      Thank you for speaking up for what is right.
    - WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
nikolay 5y ago
I would leave a company who uses this BS to pump craptocurrencies - its either dishonest management or no control over the publishing on behalf of the company, and both are equally alarming!

I'm so disappointed that our* company is peddling this bullshit :( I'm going to raise it internally. (yes, I'm an employee)

by pornel 5y ago

I'm so disappointed that our* company is peddling this bullshit :( I'm going to raise it internally. (yes, I'm an employee)

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago

> our company Are you an employee? Or, speaking generally here to a company this community commonly roots for? I guess either way. What’s your beef with them experimenting to try new and wild ideas? Edit: > (yes, I'm an employee) If true, wow. If not, troll… Publicly trashing another co-workers work/team is in poor taste, immature, and creates a hostile work environment — if you agree or not with the tech or direction. I hope you get what’s coming to you. Classic Dev God ego and suggest maybe disconnecting online a bit and apologizing to them. I can’t imagine Cloudflare’s hiring team likes to see this type of hostile banter allowed.

floatboth 5y ago
> new and wild ideas Only "wild" as in "stupid". Ethereum has been around for ages, and it still has nothing to do with "decentralizing the web". Its advanced functionality is only used for building things like automated Ponzi schemes.

rchaud 5y ago

I would suggest editing it to provide more detail on IPFS and existing methods of decentralization like torrents, which regular people can understand and use, and whose reputation is free of "get rich quick" snake oil.

sneak 5y ago

I don't see anything being peddled in TFA. Your comment seems like ideological bias.

dgb23 5y ago

Hey, I agree with you! Even though I think it's bad etiquette to write a comment like that, I was kind of relieved to read it. I have almost always been impressed with Cloudflare's blog posts (and documentation). Good and explicit marketing, clear language, interesting and smart products. Just really attractive stuff that demonstrates competency. This one feels like a mumbo-jumbo of cryptocurrency buzzwords that no one needs or even wants to hear. Just thinking about the term "Web3" pains me to the bones.

WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago
> bad etiquette to write a comment like that I guess I don’t understand the standard for etiquette. One of the first comments of an announcement by Cloudflare is by an employee of Cloudflare publicly calling it “peddling bullshit” with no additional context to what or why. It’s not fair to the authors and the people who are working on this. Calling another researcher and team’s work “bullshit” in a forum highly trafficked by the CEO and CFO and then saying you will raise it internally, is not “raising it internally” but “slandering it publicly” and flexing your high value / can’t touch this employee muscles at everyone else. It’s a giant middle finger to the company and teams from a jerk employee. Cloudflare is one of my favorite companies to follow, but I had no idea how toxic it was working there for some. Definitely enlightening.
- pornel 5y ago
  That was my raw reaction. I wouldn't speak up publicly if it was merely some weak technology or overhyped product. Such things would be fixable, and at worst only affect people who use them. Blockchains are way worse than that. I think PoW cryptocurrencies are way past any benefit of the doubt, are actively harmful on a large scale, and any promotion of them is shameful. Cloudflare crossed the line here. For Cloudflare this may be just yet another marketing and SEO piece, but it is giving legitimacy of a large tech company to the blockchain nonsense. People researching the buzzwords are going to see that a successful company powering a big chunk of the actual Web says "Web3" and NFTs are legitimate. This blog post is going to end up in a thousand pitch decks for more buzzword-salad ponzi-scheme tokens, and drive even more coal-purchasing fiat money into the massive waste of energy and silicon. The future of the Web may very well be in p2p and content-addressable protocols, and Cloudflare is likely to be exploring it, but it's absolutely irresponsible to even suggest PoW blockchains to be any part of it.
  - phpnode 5y ago
    Thank you for speaking up for what is right.
  - WORMS_EAT_WORMS 5y ago

nikolay 5y ago

I would leave a company who uses this BS to pump craptocurrencies - its either dishonest management or no control over the publishing on behalf of the company, and both are equally alarming!