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I would love to work without these idiotic ceremonies. I get into fight with our agile coach because he insisted on making new features instead of fixing bugs b

I would love to work without these idiotic ceremonies. I get into fight with our agile coach because he insisted on making new features instead of fixing bugs because we didn't have anything new to present in demos. Stupid.

oblio 5y ago
It's not stupid. If you have normal stakeholders, they want to see features. You, as a developer or maybe an existing user, want to fix bugs. But new features bring new customers. Too many demos without new features and the engineering political capital will plummet like a rock. That's when things get dicey and people get moved around or fired.
- jk20 5y ago
  Functionality is itself a feature. Stakeholders are sometimes just a bunch of managers waiting for you to finish work to take credit for it.
- Clubber 5y ago
  Apple's Snow Leopard was mainly an under-the-hood redesign and re-architecture with very few features. It's considered by many to be one of if not the best OS they've ever released. So I understand your point and it's valid, but it's stakeholders are really a force to be managed properly, not capitulated to. The capitulation, I suspect, comes from the imposter syndrome many managers have, who are just happy to be in that position. They haven't yet grown the spine to do what's best for the project. I don't care how many features an OS has (Windows 8). If it's buggy and unusable, it will be perceived as a bomb.
- hsuduebc2 5y ago
  I should give some context. We're developing an internal application for the staff at the branch. A customer comes into the branch and a company employee sets it up in the app. We have a release every two months and the demo is every two weeks. The problem is that not many people come to the demo because they are not interested. Our agile coach says it's because we're not delivering enough new features and we should be doing more. For us, it's not the app that sells, it's the people. An app is a tool to get somewhere, store data, but it has a lot of bugs in it. I'd rather have a functional product than useless metrics that in our case doesn't increase sales. That seems silly to me.

oblio 5y ago

It's not stupid. If you have normal stakeholders, they want to see features. You, as a developer or maybe an existing user, want to fix bugs. But new features bring new customers. Too many demos without new features and the engineering political capital will plummet like a rock. That's when things get dicey and people get moved around or fired.

jk20 5y ago
Functionality is itself a feature. Stakeholders are sometimes just a bunch of managers waiting for you to finish work to take credit for it.
Clubber 5y ago
Apple's Snow Leopard was mainly an under-the-hood redesign and re-architecture with very few features. It's considered by many to be one of if not the best OS they've ever released. So I understand your point and it's valid, but it's stakeholders are really a force to be managed properly, not capitulated to. The capitulation, I suspect, comes from the imposter syndrome many managers have, who are just happy to be in that position. They haven't yet grown the spine to do what's best for the project. I don't care how many features an OS has (Windows 8). If it's buggy and unusable, it will be perceived as a bomb.
hsuduebc2 5y ago
I should give some context. We're developing an internal application for the staff at the branch. A customer comes into the branch and a company employee sets it up in the app. We have a release every two months and the demo is every two weeks. The problem is that not many people come to the demo because they are not interested. Our agile coach says it's because we're not delivering enough new features and we should be doing more. For us, it's not the app that sells, it's the people. An app is a tool to get somewhere, store data, but it has a lot of bugs in it. I'd rather have a functional product than useless metrics that in our case doesn't increase sales. That seems silly to me.