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This is basically how the internet works though, isn't it? Your network and my network have parties interested in each others data. If parts of your network are
by 3pt14159 5y ago
This is basically how the internet works though, isn't it? Your network and my network have parties interested in each others data. If parts of your network are generating traffic that I don't think is reasonable then I can either disable their access or negotiate with you or one of the parties on your network to pay more or I can deny or throttle access to the parties on my network. And a OCA box just makes everything better for everyone where it's possible to employ them.
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- nisegami 5y ago"If parts of your network are generating traffic that I don't think is reasonable" But it's your customers (the end users) generating traffic by watching content on my network (Netflix shows). If your customers can generate more traffic than you can handle, regardless of its a single entity or multiple entities, then that's a contract issue between you and your customers.
- vlan0 5y agoExactly this. To say that Netflix is generating traffic pointed at SK broadband would not be fair. Those TCP connections are initiated by the end user. Without the user requests there would be no traffic. So the philosophical question really becomes, what exactly is the end user buying from their ISP?
- zakki 5y agothe physical access.
- smiley1437 5y ago> the physical access. Wouldn't that also include the bandwidth? Meaning, if the customer is already paying for the bandwidth they will consume, why wouldn't that cover bandwidth usage of Netflix content?
- ineedasername 5y agoNo. That's not what my contract with my ISP says I'm buying. Besides, physical access alone is useless. Unless you're claiming that ISP's have been selling physical access but giving away usage for free? I don't know if that's the intent of your comment, but again it isn't how my ISP words the contract.
- vlan0 5y ago>Unless you're claiming that ISP's have been selling physical access but giving away usage for free? I don't think zakki is too far off from the truth. Looking at Spectrum's Residential Internet Services Agreement, physical access might be what it boils down to. It's a little shocking they can have terms that make no guarantee to any amount of bandwidth at all, even on "their network". I suspect other large ISPs in the US use the same terminology. >Subscriber understands and agrees that Spectrum does not guarantee that any particular amount of bandwidth on the Spectrum network or that any speed or throughput of Subscriber's connection to the Spectrum network will be available to Subscriber. But I think you're correct. Having a physical connection does you no good if it isn't passing packets. https://www.spectrum.com/policies/residential-internet-services-agreement https://www.spectrum.com/policies/residential-internet-servi...
- dr-detroit 5y agoThey're gangsters demanding their cut. The ISPs were created with tax money and set up as a public trust then stolen away. At least in my state.
- simonh 5y agoAs a consumer I paid my ISP to carry say 50 Gb/s of data. They took my money on the understanding it's their job to carry that data for me. If I only wanted to browse text I wouldn't be paying for 50Gb/s. What did they think I was going to do?