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Don't forget XMPP, and Jami as the hope.
by rhn_mk1 5y ago
Don't forget XMPP, and Jami as the hope.
- colesantiago 5y agoI told a person I know to use XMPP to which they said "Which XMPP app should I use" To which I dismissed XMPP its own as a viable alternative to anything, there might be hope for Jami as long as it is not linked to anything cryptocurrency and the security is sound.
- upofadown 5y agoThen: 'What platform?" Then: Tell them.
- colesantiago 5y agoNo, the answer was WhatsApp which they unfortunately went back to. The point is, there are far too many XMPP clients for which it is very unlikely that their friends are on and have interoperability features.
- dsr_ 5y agoYour objection is that there are multiple clients for an open protocol?
- colesantiago 5y agoTo which my non technical friends don't know which to choose and didn't bother at all and went back to using WhatsApp. If that is the consequence for multiple fragmented clients then no thanks.
- zaik 5y agoJust recommend the client you are using?
- colesantiago 5y agoYes, and everyone went back to using WhatsApp as I said, including me. Nobody bothers with Signal and all these other fringe privacy apps or alternatives. That is my point.
- atatatat 5y agoNo, nobody in YOUR circle bothers with it. Approaching 50% of mine does. Don't project that laziness onto the entire populace, enabling others to feel comfortable that it's "too hard" to use Signal....that's awful.
- colesantiago 5y ago> Don't project that laziness onto the entire populace, enabling others to feel comfortable that it's "too hard" to use Signal....that's awful. Unfortunately WhatsApp has a lot more staying power and social inertia than you would ever realise, regardless of how large a social circle is, and your anecdote doesn't change that either. Until Signal supports all or most of WhatsApp's features I don't see this changing.
- approxim8ion 5y agoSignal does support most of WhatsApp's features though.
- colesantiago 5y agoGreat, so this means I can use Signal to backup my messages on my old iPhone with an iCloud backup to my new phone right?
- circularfoyers 5y agoYou can transfer all your messages from your old iPhone to your new one though[1]. [1] https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Backup-and-Restore-Messages https://support.signal.org/hc/en-us/articles/360007059752-Ba...
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- upofadown 5y agoIn particular, XMPP to a TOR hidden service to entirely replace something like Session: * https://gist.github.com/dllud/a46d4a555e31dfeff6ad41dcf20729ac https://gist.github.com/dllud/a46d4a555e31dfeff6ad41dcf20729... XMPP is better than anything else I have seen for this sort of thing in that it is federated and gives you a choice of servers. There is no single point of failure. Here is what that looks like using Conversations on Android: * https://creep.im/xmpp_tor/ https://creep.im/xmpp_tor/
- saghul 5y agoCheckout Snikket if you haven't yet: https://snikket.org/ https://snikket.org/ - Not affiliated, just a fan of Matt's efforts here.