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Do you have a source that shows that it's not negligible? The carbon and water cost of 10 calories of grain is pretty large.

by wumpus 5y ago

GhettoComputers 5y ago
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... The EPA site shows transportation and electricity as the main contributions to carbon. The grains are not the issue, the subsidies in the US are so strong that they are not a real factor. There is so much excess food produced they export it to other countries for instance. https://modernfarmer.com/2019/01/congress-finally-passed-a-new-farm-bill-and-it-continues-to-pay-homage-to-the-cult-of-corn-and-soy/ https://modernfarmer.com/2019/01/congress-finally-passed-a-n... https://abcnews.go.com/US/dairy-farmers-dumping-milk-amid-covid-19-pandemics/story?id=70268302 https://abcnews.go.com/US/dairy-farmers-dumping-milk-amid-co... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/business/milk-dumping-coronavirus/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/business/milk-dumping-cor... Fresh food is often wasted, and the dumping of milk is to prevent the prices from going too low. This was happening before corona as well, this paper is a pretty good summary from a marxist perspective on overproduction. https://www.e-ir.info/2016/07/07/agricultural-overproduction-and-the-deteriorating-environment/ https://www.e-ir.info/2016/07/07/agricultural-overproduction...
- wumpus 5y ago
  Again, you apparently are willing to confuse the transportation cost of beef with the transport cost of everything. Nice reference to Marxism.
- lasc4r 5y ago
  Transportation and cooling of meat in particular is nothing compared to the land area of North America and South America combined that we devote to growing crops to feed livestock. https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    Is it negligible that transportation of fresh meat, its cooling or freezing are not at all factors in carbon production? I would like to see how its calculated.
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Do you have a source that shows that it's not negligible? The carbon and water cost of 10 calories of grain is pretty large.

by wumpus 5y ago

Do you have a source that shows that it's not negligible? The carbon and water cost of 10 calories of grain is pretty large.

GhettoComputers 5y ago

https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emissions https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sources-greenhouse-gas-emis... The EPA site shows transportation and electricity as the main contributions to carbon. The grains are not the issue, the subsidies in the US are so strong that they are not a real factor. There is so much excess food produced they export it to other countries for instance. https://modernfarmer.com/2019/01/congress-finally-passed-a-new-farm-bill-and-it-continues-to-pay-homage-to-the-cult-of-corn-and-soy/ https://modernfarmer.com/2019/01/congress-finally-passed-a-n... https://abcnews.go.com/US/dairy-farmers-dumping-milk-amid-covid-19-pandemics/story?id=70268302 https://abcnews.go.com/US/dairy-farmers-dumping-milk-amid-co... https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/business/milk-dumping-coronavirus/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/15/business/milk-dumping-cor... Fresh food is often wasted, and the dumping of milk is to prevent the prices from going too low. This was happening before corona as well, this paper is a pretty good summary from a marxist perspective on overproduction. https://www.e-ir.info/2016/07/07/agricultural-overproduction-and-the-deteriorating-environment/ https://www.e-ir.info/2016/07/07/agricultural-overproduction...

wumpus 5y ago
Again, you apparently are willing to confuse the transportation cost of beef with the transport cost of everything. Nice reference to Marxism.
lasc4r 5y ago
Transportation and cooling of meat in particular is nothing compared to the land area of North America and South America combined that we devote to growing crops to feed livestock. https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture https://ourworldindata.org/global-land-for-agriculture
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  Is it negligible that transportation of fresh meat, its cooling or freezing are not at all factors in carbon production? I would like to see how its calculated.

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