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"are anything like what you see covered in the US." Judging US police from media coverage is really not useful. Having lived experience of living in the US I
by jollybean 5y ago
"are anything like what you see covered in the US."
Judging US police from media coverage is really not useful.
Having lived experience of living in the US I think does illustrate some things, and then, more importantly, having access to 'good data' (which is hard, but nevertheless possible) is even better.
I believe the police in the US overall take a more aggressive tone and posture. I also believe US citizens are far more likely to act in defiance. The things I've seen American individuals do ... I have never in my life seen in Canada, UK, France, Germany and couldn't even imagine it happening.
The scenes of a man, with two police officers arresting him - four hands on him, putting cuffs on him - and he goes for his gun (!!). Or the number of times people race away from police after being pulled over and resulting high-speed chase. It's absurd.
It's an issue I think people often don't tend to want to think about, but if we use car chases as an example - I think this is worthy because these are generally not situations in which arbitrary police aggression is going to be a 'root cause'.
You can see total deaths in the US from car chases is ballpark 2/million/year, where as in he UK it's about 0.2/million/year. [1][2]
High speed chases are a cultural phenom [3]
(FYI about 1/2 of the people who die in high speed pursuits are innocent bystanders.)
Obviously, this will be affected by police police in terms of pursuit policy (i.e. in many forces they won't pursue if it's too dangerous) - but there's no doubt that Americans have a much greater propensity to run from police, in cars, which is an extremely dangerous thing to do for those involved, but also for everyone else. It's nary impossible to get the data, but I believe that this applies to all other forms of confrontation as well. I think that they are related, i.e. civilians more aggressive posture - combined with the fact so many people have weapons - makes the police more 'on edge' and combined with their more systematically aggressive posture, you have considerably greater chances of 'small things' escalating into 'big things' - as we have in this article.
[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/319294/deaths-during-or-following-police-contact-police-pursuit-in-england-and-wales/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/319294/deaths-during-or-...
[2] https://www.statista.com/statistics/727008/vehicle-pursuit-related-deaths-by-state/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/727008/vehicle-pursuit-r...
[3] https://www.lamag.com/longform/how-high-speed-car-chases-became-a-citywide-pastime-in-los-angeles/ https://www.lamag.com/longform/how-high-speed-car-chases-bec...