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> We have a very high vaccination rate here in Iceland but that did not stop hospitalisations, or deaths Let's fact check this. Here's Reuters COVID data from

> We have a very high vaccination rate here in Iceland but that did not stop hospitalisations, or deaths Let's fact check this. Here's Reuters COVID data from Iceland: https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/iceland/ https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-m... Iceland has had a grand total of 33 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic. There have been 3 deaths total since May 2021, which is remarkable on it's own, but especially since Iceland's infections during the pandemic peaked in early August 2021. So, no, vaccines didn't totally stop the deaths. But vaccines dramatically reduced them and prevented what likely would have been a spike in deaths in August. Here's more from the Washington Post, which actually seems to remember that Iceland exists: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/iceland-covid-surge-vaccines/2021/08/14/bdd88d04-fabd-11eb-911c-524bc8b68f17_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/iceland-covid-su... > Many of the country’s recent infections have occurred among vaccinated people, but they’ve been overwhelmingly mild. > Iceland’s rates of covid-19 hospitalizations and deaths have remained low. Of the 1,300 people currently infected, just 2 percent are in the hospital. > The country hasn’t recorded a virus death since late May. [The article was written in early August before those 3 additional deaths]. No comment on whether you're an anti-vaxxer, but you are misinformed.

jpadkins 5y ago
> No comment on whether you're an anti-vaxxer, but you are misinformed. No they are not. Your fact check confirmed their statements. "We have a very high vaccination rate here in Iceland but that did not stop hospitalisations, or deaths. But definetly decreased them. Our high vaccination rate has had 0 effect on the spread of infections though." I don't understand how can call the OP misinformed when you are stating identical statements. The only difference in your posts is the narrative (spin) surrounding the facts. > which actually seems to remember that Iceland exists: OP is from Iceland! Slow down and think about how condescending your post reads.
- streblo 5y ago
  The tone of the original comment suggests that Iceland is in some dire situation with respect to covid, that the vaccine's effectiveness is questionable, and that the vaccine specifically hasn't prevented deaths. This couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, tone matters. Tone that sends the message that vaccines aren't effective, as the original poster's tone suggests, is misinformation.
  - jpadkins 5y ago
    No, that was not the tone. No where in the comment was anything like "vaccine specifically hasn't prevented deaths." That interpretation was created by you. Somehow you stretched "doesn't stop the spread" (a fact) to "hasn't prevented deaths / hospitalizations" which is in direct opposition to "But definetly[sic] decreased them." You strawmanned an Icelander, then pivoted to tone policing. Please stop and apologize to the OP. Please reflect and understand that by invalidating people's real lived experiences you are creating more division, more animosity, more "anti vaxxers"! If you can simply reply to misinformation with good information (without strawmanning or tone policing), you will make actual progress on what I hope is your true goal; making people more informed about covid vaccines. If your true motivation is to feel morally superior to random people on the internet, then by all means, continue to debate me.

jpadkins 5y ago

> No comment on whether you're an anti-vaxxer, but you are misinformed. No they are not. Your fact check confirmed their statements. "We have a very high vaccination rate here in Iceland but that did not stop hospitalisations, or deaths. But definetly decreased them. Our high vaccination rate has had 0 effect on the spread of infections though." I don't understand how can call the OP misinformed when you are stating identical statements. The only difference in your posts is the narrative (spin) surrounding the facts. > which actually seems to remember that Iceland exists: OP is from Iceland! Slow down and think about how condescending your post reads.

streblo 5y ago
The tone of the original comment suggests that Iceland is in some dire situation with respect to covid, that the vaccine's effectiveness is questionable, and that the vaccine specifically hasn't prevented deaths. This couldn't be further from the truth. Yes, tone matters. Tone that sends the message that vaccines aren't effective, as the original poster's tone suggests, is misinformation.
- jpadkins 5y ago
  No, that was not the tone. No where in the comment was anything like "vaccine specifically hasn't prevented deaths." That interpretation was created by you. Somehow you stretched "doesn't stop the spread" (a fact) to "hasn't prevented deaths / hospitalizations" which is in direct opposition to "But definetly[sic] decreased them." You strawmanned an Icelander, then pivoted to tone policing. Please stop and apologize to the OP. Please reflect and understand that by invalidating people's real lived experiences you are creating more division, more animosity, more "anti vaxxers"! If you can simply reply to misinformation with good information (without strawmanning or tone policing), you will make actual progress on what I hope is your true goal; making people more informed about covid vaccines. If your true motivation is to feel morally superior to random people on the internet, then by all means, continue to debate me.