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Also known as a command economy, a staple stalinist recipe.

by yholio 5y ago

runesoerensen 5y ago
> Also known as a command economy, a staple stalinist recipe No. That’s an extreme, just like your idea of what you call a “social service” performed by scalpers. There’s a middle ground, and it’s certainly possible to regulate a market to mitigate the most pathological consequences of capitalism without Stalinism. In fact, that happens all the time.
rjzzleep 5y ago
Such an idiotic statement. When every other country was suffering under scalpers buying up mask supplies at the beginning of the pandemic Taiwan, South Korea and some other countries actively took a hand in mask distribution. The result: - cheaper access to masks for the general population - no mask shortages in critical infrastructure such as hospitals or other health care institutions - general better handling and health outcomes during the pandemic Leave it to the Americans that would consider sound policy and good health outcomes stalinist or communist recipes.
- blowski 5y ago
  Exactly there’s a “guilty by association” fallacy here. 1. You want the government to control production of some resources. 2. Stalin controlled production of some resources 3. Stalin killed millions of people 4. Therefore, you want to kill millions of people
  - ckuehne 5y ago
    No, there is only "knowing that communist central planning always ends up in shortages". See here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19970544 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19970544 for an example that illustrates the point nicely.
    - blowski 5y ago
      "Some central planning" does not mean "communism".
      - rjzzleep 5y ago
        On top of that the US and Germany had the same ability, it just that they were extremely slow in their decision making. When they finally made that step it did help. Incompetence caused scalpers to rise and profit while the rest suffered until the Government finally got their heads out of their asses. Nothing about stalinism or communism in here. Just general incompetence.

Also known as a command economy, a staple stalinist recipe.

by yholio 5y ago

Also known as a command economy, a staple stalinist recipe.

> Also known as a command economy, a staple stalinist recipe No. That’s an extreme, just like your idea of what you call a “social service” performed by scalpers. There’s a middle ground, and it’s certainly possible to regulate a market to mitigate the most pathological consequences of capitalism without Stalinism. In fact, that happens all the time.

rjzzleep 5y ago

Such an idiotic statement. When every other country was suffering under scalpers buying up mask supplies at the beginning of the pandemic Taiwan, South Korea and some other countries actively took a hand in mask distribution. The result: - cheaper access to masks for the general population - no mask shortages in critical infrastructure such as hospitals or other health care institutions - general better handling and health outcomes during the pandemic Leave it to the Americans that would consider sound policy and good health outcomes stalinist or communist recipes.

blowski 5y ago
Exactly there’s a “guilty by association” fallacy here. 1. You want the government to control production of some resources. 2. Stalin controlled production of some resources 3. Stalin killed millions of people 4. Therefore, you want to kill millions of people
- ckuehne 5y ago
  No, there is only "knowing that communist central planning always ends up in shortages". See here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19970544 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19970544 for an example that illustrates the point nicely.
  - blowski 5y ago
    "Some central planning" does not mean "communism".
    - rjzzleep 5y ago
      On top of that the US and Germany had the same ability, it just that they were extremely slow in their decision making. When they finally made that step it did help. Incompetence caused scalpers to rise and profit while the rest suffered until the Government finally got their heads out of their asses. Nothing about stalinism or communism in here. Just general incompetence.