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>10 pedestrians are killed each year by human drivers in SF, and almost exclusively they are the drivers fault (not only by definition, but also based on an imp
by peter422 5y ago
>10 pedestrians are killed each year by human drivers in SF, and almost exclusively they are the drivers fault (not only by definition, but also based on an impartial assessment of the situations).
People will not care, and I also do not think these automated cars are going to kill any pedestrians anyways.
- aidenn0 5y agoWhen a human kills someone "that's a bad driver, take away their license" when a machine kills someone "that's a bad machine, ban it"
- AnimalMuppet 5y agoIf you're setting the over-under at 0.5, I'll take the over...
- DamnYuppie 5y agoAgreed most people will not care. The legacy auto manufacturers and their mainstream media lap dogs will jump all over it. There will be an outpouring of fabricated outrage. It is all so predictable I want to puke.
- jjulius 5y agoTake a deep breathe, you're going to be OK.
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- wutbrodo 5y agoThe legacy manufacturers are pretty invested in the self-driving space at this point though, no? Cruise itself is owned by Honda and GM, among others. I believe waymo has similar investors. I think we'll see a situation more like nicotine vapes. Instead of trying to crush the industry, big cigarette manufacturers just bought them.
- jimmydorry 5y agoInvested to not fall behind. They will snipe at their opponents, and I don’t doubt they would do the numbers on torpedoing their own solution if it meant wiping the field clean. Long-term, self-driving cars taking will mean less cars sold to consumers. Between ride-sharing, commercial operations, etc. the end goal will be less cars on roads.
- amznthrwaway 5y agoYou “want to puke” because of a response to a problem, where you’re simply imagining both the problem _and_ the response? Calm down.
- ajsnigrutin 5y ago> People will not care I don't believe that. One pregnant woman gets hi, and she and her unborn child die, and there will be so much anger and pressure on the politcians, everything will get outlawed. Human drivers are individuals... John Doe killed someone, blame John Doe. Autonomous car kills someone, blame all autonomous cars!
- vmception 5y agoConsensus is a gradient, and representative consensus is multiple gradients.
- oblio 5y agoTechies are a very narrow band in any of these gradients. Regular people are very wide bands, and there's a reason horror sci-fi movies where robots kill humankind are extremely popular.
- gfodor 5y agoYou're both right and wrong at the same time. The media gets to decide, as always, what we're collectively outraged about. Or to be more specific, the people who control the media. So if you want to predict if people are going to care when someone gets killed by a robocar, it depends on who stands to make or lose money if they do or don't.
- themacguffinman 5y agoIt seems more likely that the manufacturer will blamed. Society already has experience dealing with inhuman harm from devices. If a phone explodes on its own, no one is calling for all phones to be banned.
- jimmydorry 5y agoIf a phone explodes, many businesses outlaw that brand and maybe narrow that to a model. With prior example, do you think the same won’t happen with a self-driving car?
- bagels 5y agoPeople will care a disproportionate amount, I think.