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Sure, lots of internet people who don't want to be tracked (license plate readers notwithstanding). But also plenty of IRL people complaining about how, for ex
by caeril 5y ago
Sure, lots of internet people who don't want to be tracked (license plate readers notwithstanding).
But also plenty of IRL people complaining about how, for example, they miss their $10k pickup with no power anything that worked great for anytime they needed to haul material X from location M to N, but now you need to drop a minimum of $50k for a vehicle you might use once per weekend to haul gravel, insulation, cement, lumber, furniture, etc.
Trucks are a particularly big market for this idea. It's a vehicle you use when you're already dirty and sweaty from work/projects and don't care about comfort, and serves a primary purpose: moving heavy and/or large items.
But the big carmakers have opted to cater to the market that doesn't actually use trucks for their actual purpose, but rather the market that buys trucks as commuter vehicles.
- clintonb 5y agoThat statement makes no sense. The folks complaining can still buy those old pickups if they want. All that has happened is they are now older. No one is forcing them to buy a new truck that they use sporadically.
- quacked 5y agoI've investigated about 20 of those old pickups; they're crap, because they've been run into the ground. I want a new old pickup.
- lotsofpulp 5y agoThat will not happen unless new legislation is passed: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-19/bigger-pickups-are-result-of-change-in-fuel-standards https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-19/bigger-pi...
- ricardobeat 5y agoAssuming those memories are from the 70s, $10k then are worth about $50k today. Never mind the fact you’re also buying a much, much better vehicle in most aspects.
- beamatronic 5y agoI would love a stripped down 1990's-era Toyota truck https://www.thedrive.com/news/42523/84-mile-1993-toyota-pickup-barn-find-fetches-45000-on-ebay https://www.thedrive.com/news/42523/84-mile-1993-toyota-pick... But not for 50k
- yardie 5y agoYou can still get a stripped down, plain white F-150 for under $27k through fleet sales. But buyers don’t want that. They want the 4-door people hauler that happens to have a pick-up bed and leather seats. They’ll imagine the $10k from memories but forget the vinyl seats, no AC, and manual windows. But they won’t buy that one n
- pickle-wizard 5y agoThey are also thinking of that $10K in todays dollars. Adjusted for inflation, that $10K truck that could could buy back in the mid-80s costs the same as a new one today. You just get a heck of a lot more features.
- jdmichal 5y agoIgnoring everything else, that new truck is much larger. Compact trucks have not really existed in the US market for a decade at least. An old Ford Ranger was 175-200 inches long depending on year and model. The new one is 200-210 inches. Sort this list by class and you'll see a total of two compact trucks in the US market. Both are debuting either this year or the next: Ford Maverick (200") and Hyundai Santa Cruz (195"). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pickup_trucks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pickup_trucks
- s0rce 5y agoThose new "compact" trucks are sadly still 2ft longer than old compact trucks from the early 90s. Can't get anything small anymore.
- yibg 5y agoPeople can have nostalgia for stuff they grew up with but when it comes down to it don't actually want to spend the money to buy it now. I reminisce about 90s sports cars that I used to dream about too. But then I think about the lack of bluetooth, keyless start, the low power output, poor handling, poor safety, poor fuel economy, and I just buy a modern car instead.