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In the United States backup cameras, tire pressure monitors, and electronic stability control are required by law. So out of your list that leaves.. GPS (alre
by windowsrookie 5y ago
In the United States backup cameras, tire pressure monitors, and electronic stability control are required by law.
So out of your list that leaves..
GPS (already optional on most cars)
Ass warmers (already optional on most cars)
Telemetry (this could be removed from models that have it, not all cars sold today have telemetry)
USB chargers (really don't think USB chargers are causing a production shortage at this moment)
Proximity Sensors (already optional on budget cars)
Keyless entry (could be removed, I doubt many people would buy a new car without keyless entry tho)
Remote climate control (already optional on budget cars)
- mrweasel 5y agoI tried to buy a car without AC, but as it turns out that’s almost impossible. They had never imported that model without AC and the waiting time was pretty long, because they where not really built in large numbers. The models without AC mostly exist so they can produce ads saying “available from less than X“
- CamperBob2 5y agoWhat's the point of buying a car without A/C? You might save $1000 now, but you'll lose several thousand at trade-in time because no one else will want your car.
- ok123456 5y agoNo parasitic power losses and it's one less system that needs to be maintained.
- tms2x2 5y agoAC is used for windshield defrost. I remember waiting for heat to defrost the windshield so I could see. AC defrost works in 10 sec.
- nikau 5y agoThe power loss from an AC compressor with the clutch disengaged is negligible. Modern AC also use variable displacement compressors which adjust load according to temperature, so once the cabin is cool they use a constant small amount of engine power rather than toggling to full power on and off like older designs.
- mensetmanusman 5y agoFor driving indoors.
- CamperBob2 5y agoI'm trying to think of a case where regular passenger cars are driven in climate-controlled indoor settings, and I'm not having much success. What do you have in mind?
- mensetmanusman 5y agoTeslas in the Las Vegas hyper loop.
- CamperBob2 5y agoEven those are going to be taken out of service and sold into the used market at some point. When that happens, trying to sell a car without A/C in the Las Vegas area is going to be about as successful as trying to sell a swift kick in the gonads.
- mrweasel 5y agoThat depend on your country. I would save closer to $2500 on the budget model. Other than that you are completely right.
- thriftwy 5y agoWhat's the point of keyless entry? Mine comes with key, and yhe auxiliary immobilizer which will not let it drive without radio tag or typing in PIN.
- Ekaros 5y agoEase of use. I would love if I could just leave key in my pocket and not worry about opening doors or putting it in ignition. I could even connect it to my keychain.
- thriftwy 5y agoI wonder if nobody did ssh+nfc keys yet. At least I could trust it.
- Ekaros 5y agoSSH+NFC sound like horrible protocol choice for such token. Not that I would be against option to periodically rekey the whole system. Generate new pair of private keys and have the car and key swap them with my approval.
- thriftwy 5y agoYou don't need to ever rekey an SSH private-public key pair. Still, a single hands-free token can be taken by force or stolen.
- Ekaros 5y agoSo can car key... I don't really have a car and probably never will were I truly worried that it was essentially single factor authentication.
- thriftwy 5y agoBut the car key + separate wireless immobilizer token is 2FA and it makes me somewhat confident. WRT keyless entry, I actually have figured it out. Central wireless lock is cool. It's keyless start that I'm opposed to.