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Hello, It took almost 2 years to develop and publish an article on this device. This is #open_source - brain-computer interface I am not sure that everybody her

Hello, It took almost 2 years to develop and publish an article on this device. This is #open_source - brain-computer interface I am not sure that everybody here have access to springer library, sorry, this paper is not open-access. but technical detail in my GitHub page https://github.com/Ildaron/ironbci https://github.com/Ildaron/ironbci

drdeca 5y ago
Cool! btw, it looks like there is an error with the cert for ironbci.com ? Edit: uh, I guess my phone just didn’t like that it was over http, nevermind
- ildaron_ron 5y ago
  https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354935534_Low-cost_brain_computer_interface_for_everyday_use https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354935534_Low-cost_... here is open access for paper
  - ur-whale 5y ago
    > here is open access for paper Not accessible without login. Please publish your work on an actual open access site. Even better, please make it available to sci-hub.
    - hwillis 5y ago
      https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz
vladharbuz 5y ago
Hi! Just curious, why did you decide to not publish your work as open access? I'd like to better understand why researchers are not taking more of a stand against Elsevier et al.
- gattilorenz 5y ago
  Because it can go against your CV or cost >500$ Not every journal is a viable option, not every journal has the same rating. In theory everyone would prefer to publish in an open access journal but sometimes there's an extra fee for that or there's no good (reputable, good impact factor and appropriate for that topic) open access journal for your project...
  - ildaron_ron 5y ago
    yes, it is not cheap to publish in open-access
  - actually_a_dog 5y ago
    re: going against your CV, do you have any insight into why this might be? Open access journals are not always predatory or fraudulent publications. It seems to me that as long as the journal is peer reviewed, publishes high quality research, and has a reasonable impact factor, tenure committees being biased against them is irrational.
    - jeffalyanak 5y ago
      The problem isn't the reality of journal quality, it's just the common perception. The unfortunate fact is that you have to cater to the biases of wider academia. While more established researchers can turn down the chance to publish in one of the big, closed journals, it's an opportunity that many cannot turn down.
    - esyir 5y ago
      You have to understand this: Academia runs on clout. Not quality, not replicability, but reputation, however it is earned. That means that an amazing paper published in PLoS ONE is generally worse for your career than an unreplicable pile of drek in Nature. The quality of the paper, barring notable impact outliers, is secondary to the journal it's published in.
    - gattilorenz 5y ago
      > as long as the journal is peer reviewed, publishes high quality research, and has a reasonable impact factor, tenure committees being biased against them is irrational I agree. And stronger than that, recently some funding agencies (e.g. the Dutch NWO) favor/require open access for works that come out of projects they fund, and they have budget set aside for that. The trend is hopefully changing, but it takes time.
actually_a_dog 5y ago
Thanks a lot for the github link! Does the journal allow you to disseminate the full text on your website, or is there a preprint available?
- hwillis 5y ago
  https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz
ur-whale 5y ago
> I am not sure that everybody here have access to springer library Most people don't. And many who do avoid it like the plague. If you would like your work to gather some visibility, I would highly recommend making it available for free, eg publishing the PDF on github.

drdeca 5y ago

Cool! btw, it looks like there is an error with the cert for ironbci.com ? Edit: uh, I guess my phone just didn’t like that it was over http, nevermind

ildaron_ron 5y ago
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354935534_Low-cost_brain_computer_interface_for_everyday_use https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354935534_Low-cost_... here is open access for paper
- ur-whale 5y ago
  > here is open access for paper Not accessible without login. Please publish your work on an actual open access site. Even better, please make it available to sci-hub.
  - hwillis 5y ago
    https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz

vladharbuz 5y ago

Hi! Just curious, why did you decide to not publish your work as open access? I'd like to better understand why researchers are not taking more of a stand against Elsevier et al.

gattilorenz 5y ago
Because it can go against your CV or cost >500$ Not every journal is a viable option, not every journal has the same rating. In theory everyone would prefer to publish in an open access journal but sometimes there's an extra fee for that or there's no good (reputable, good impact factor and appropriate for that topic) open access journal for your project...
- ildaron_ron 5y ago
  yes, it is not cheap to publish in open-access
- actually_a_dog 5y ago
  re: going against your CV, do you have any insight into why this might be? Open access journals are not always predatory or fraudulent publications. It seems to me that as long as the journal is peer reviewed, publishes high quality research, and has a reasonable impact factor, tenure committees being biased against them is irrational.
  - jeffalyanak 5y ago
    The problem isn't the reality of journal quality, it's just the common perception. The unfortunate fact is that you have to cater to the biases of wider academia. While more established researchers can turn down the chance to publish in one of the big, closed journals, it's an opportunity that many cannot turn down.
  - esyir 5y ago
    You have to understand this: Academia runs on clout. Not quality, not replicability, but reputation, however it is earned. That means that an amazing paper published in PLoS ONE is generally worse for your career than an unreplicable pile of drek in Nature. The quality of the paper, barring notable impact outliers, is secondary to the journal it's published in.
  - gattilorenz 5y ago
    > as long as the journal is peer reviewed, publishes high quality research, and has a reasonable impact factor, tenure committees being biased against them is irrational I agree. And stronger than that, recently some funding agencies (e.g. the Dutch NWO) favor/require open access for works that come out of projects they fund, and they have budget set aside for that. The trend is hopefully changing, but it takes time.

actually_a_dog 5y ago

Thanks a lot for the github link! Does the journal allow you to disseminate the full text on your website, or is there a preprint available?

hwillis 5y ago
https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz https://ufile.io/4q5i4afz

ur-whale 5y ago

> I am not sure that everybody here have access to springer library Most people don't. And many who do avoid it like the plague. If you would like your work to gather some visibility, I would highly recommend making it available for free, eg publishing the PDF on github.