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The late hip hop artist DMX first got hooked on crack after being given a blunt laced with crack. The addiction would haunt him for the rest of his life and eve

The late hip hop artist DMX first got hooked on crack after being given a blunt laced with crack. The addiction would haunt him for the rest of his life and eventually lead to his heart failure. In the video, about 3 mins in, you can see how much that moment weighed on him, after decades. I'm saying maybe there's actually a decent bit of truth in the hokey video. But maybe that's they'd be better off showing DMX than an overdramatized skit. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qwcbG1rIp8Y https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qwcbG1rIp8Y

loopz 5y ago
Providing proper information and treating people like adults might succeed more than "just take the damn vaccine, mmmkay?". It does require responsible adults though, but in many countries there were fertile ground for open debate.
- nindalf 5y ago
  No information is proper enough. Like the second comment from top points out, the goalposts are always shifted. Information on vaccine studies? Rushed. Information on vaccine rollouts from countries that have reached 75-80% of the entire population vaccinated? Faked/not applicable. Information comparing cases/deaths in US states with neighbouring states having higher vaccination rates? Invalid. Look, be honest here. There’s more than enough information out there and none of it is being hidden. Hundreds of millions have gotten the shot and the benefits are abundantly clear. For example - “Despite Delta, severe covid-19 is much rarer among vaccinated Britons“ (https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/09/18/despite-delta-severe-covid-19-is-much-rarer-among-vaccinated-britons https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/09/18/despite-...). But this doesn’t make a difference. Despite all this information being available, people will still rely on faulty information like “Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend became impotent after he took the vaccine”. FWIW, the White House treated Minaj like an adult and reached out to have a conversation with her. But she didn’t change her mind. > treat people like adults If they were intelligent adults they’d be able to evaluate the data for themselves. Instead they watch YouTube videos telling them to “do their own research” followed by checking out Nicki Minaj’s tweets. Go ahead. Try having an open debate with Nicki Minaj or Kyrie Irving or any vaccine skeptic with millions of followers. Let me know how that goes.
  - freebuju 5y ago
    I think the bigger point is the lack of trust in our public health rather than laying out the facts. The same way any person who is pro-vax will argue how beneficial it is, is the same way a person who doesn't believe it is beneficial to them will argue it out. There is no one clear science, one clear truth to rule them all in this pandemic. This is the only truth I have come to terms with. I see anti-vaxxers with their straw man arguments as just people who have no trust in the government and the health authorities. Can't blame them though, since the pandemic started almost 2 years ago, there is still a lot we don't know about it's actual origins.
  - donw 5y ago
    Trust flows both ways. From the get-go, the messaging should have been: "This is an evolving situation, and we're doing our best to keep up. Right now, our recommendations are X. As we learn, those are going to change." That's what Japan did. Humility and respect. It worked. In the US, it was: "Masks don't work! You're too stupid to even know how to use one properly. Save them for nurses. No, wait, if you don't wear your mask, you're literally killing grandma! We'll arrest your goat-fucking inbred ass if you don't mask up. Trump's vaccine? You'd have to be a colossal moron to take that experimental garbage. Not for me! No, wait, it's Biden's vaccine now? If you don't get the jab, you're Hitler Squared! Don't want it? You're fired!" How well this worked is left as an exercise for the reader.
    - ziml77 5y ago
      That worked in Japan because the culture there is far less selfish. People there would already wear masks when sick to avoid spreading it to others. But in the US, you have people who continue to make arguments about how it's stupid to force them to wear a mask because others are afraid of getting COVID. I saw a really bad meme about that the other day where one person was walking with an umbrella and angrily telling someone else to also use an umbrella so the person with the umbrella wouldn't get wet.
      - loopz 5y ago
        In Japan, commandments works. In US and other countries not that well. Along with humility and information, people also need to sense the care.

loopz 5y ago

Providing proper information and treating people like adults might succeed more than "just take the damn vaccine, mmmkay?". It does require responsible adults though, but in many countries there were fertile ground for open debate.

nindalf 5y ago
No information is proper enough. Like the second comment from top points out, the goalposts are always shifted. Information on vaccine studies? Rushed. Information on vaccine rollouts from countries that have reached 75-80% of the entire population vaccinated? Faked/not applicable. Information comparing cases/deaths in US states with neighbouring states having higher vaccination rates? Invalid. Look, be honest here. There’s more than enough information out there and none of it is being hidden. Hundreds of millions have gotten the shot and the benefits are abundantly clear. For example - “Despite Delta, severe covid-19 is much rarer among vaccinated Britons“ (https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/09/18/despite-delta-severe-covid-19-is-much-rarer-among-vaccinated-britons https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2021/09/18/despite-...). But this doesn’t make a difference. Despite all this information being available, people will still rely on faulty information like “Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend became impotent after he took the vaccine”. FWIW, the White House treated Minaj like an adult and reached out to have a conversation with her. But she didn’t change her mind. > treat people like adults If they were intelligent adults they’d be able to evaluate the data for themselves. Instead they watch YouTube videos telling them to “do their own research” followed by checking out Nicki Minaj’s tweets. Go ahead. Try having an open debate with Nicki Minaj or Kyrie Irving or any vaccine skeptic with millions of followers. Let me know how that goes.
- freebuju 5y ago
  I think the bigger point is the lack of trust in our public health rather than laying out the facts. The same way any person who is pro-vax will argue how beneficial it is, is the same way a person who doesn't believe it is beneficial to them will argue it out. There is no one clear science, one clear truth to rule them all in this pandemic. This is the only truth I have come to terms with. I see anti-vaxxers with their straw man arguments as just people who have no trust in the government and the health authorities. Can't blame them though, since the pandemic started almost 2 years ago, there is still a lot we don't know about it's actual origins.
- donw 5y ago
  Trust flows both ways. From the get-go, the messaging should have been: "This is an evolving situation, and we're doing our best to keep up. Right now, our recommendations are X. As we learn, those are going to change." That's what Japan did. Humility and respect. It worked. In the US, it was: "Masks don't work! You're too stupid to even know how to use one properly. Save them for nurses. No, wait, if you don't wear your mask, you're literally killing grandma! We'll arrest your goat-fucking inbred ass if you don't mask up. Trump's vaccine? You'd have to be a colossal moron to take that experimental garbage. Not for me! No, wait, it's Biden's vaccine now? If you don't get the jab, you're Hitler Squared! Don't want it? You're fired!" How well this worked is left as an exercise for the reader.
  - ziml77 5y ago
    That worked in Japan because the culture there is far less selfish. People there would already wear masks when sick to avoid spreading it to others. But in the US, you have people who continue to make arguments about how it's stupid to force them to wear a mask because others are afraid of getting COVID. I saw a really bad meme about that the other day where one person was walking with an umbrella and angrily telling someone else to also use an umbrella so the person with the umbrella wouldn't get wet.
    - loopz 5y ago
      In Japan, commandments works. In US and other countries not that well. Along with humility and information, people also need to sense the care.