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The reason everyone uses rpi's is because everyone uses rpi's. At this point there aren't any SBC's that are truly faster (some do have better connectivity/re S

The reason everyone uses rpi's is because everyone uses rpi's. At this point there aren't any SBC's that are truly faster (some do have better connectivity/re SATA/PCIe/etc but 4 A72's and 8G of RAM which given a reasonable heatsink run at 2Ghz are faster than nearly every single other SBC less than $100). But overwhelmingly those boards are trash. The rpi is trash too, but its trash that everyone and their brother uses so it tends to work. Unless your good at reverse engineering GPU's or random SoC bugs, you stick to the rpi because someone else has already done the heavy lifting. That, and at least in the USA, its really the only SBC most people can buy locally because best buy, microcenter, and various other stores actually stock them.

GhettoComputers 5y ago
>At this point there aren't any SBC's that are truly faster Which Pi 4 model are you comparing it to? What defines "trash"? You can easily use an older laptop since everyone actually uses x86 and likely has spare hardware. >you stick to the rpi because someone else has already done the heavy lifting. I wouldn't buy hardware with no support, and x86 has the most support. Why does local stores matter for SBCs? People don't really buy hardware at stores since newegg, arrow/digikey/mouser and amazon exist. Online retail killed radioshack, and is currently decimating local buying. Cyber monday deals aren't excluding anyone when most people have amazon prime.
- StillBored 5y ago
  Well depends on what you mean by "support", but I tend to agree most people would be better served spending a bit more (or repurposing older hw) and getting a recent atom/low end x86. They are surprisingly power efficient these days, and idle as low or lower than the rpi4's, and finding one with multiple NIC's shouldn't be to hard. And most are probably much faster than the A72's on the pi. But you wouldn't see people posting about their successes doing this with a atomicPi, chuwi herobox, or the dozens of other inexpensive x86 machines that might be considered competitors because its assumed one can install $RANDOM_OS and configure vlan+routing with them. OTOH, while the rpi's support is weak they guarantee supplies for a fairly long time. Which actually makes them a reasonable choice for this kind of thing if you plan on designing it once, sticking it on box somewhere and expect to be able to buy another in 5-8 years when it dies. Chuwi like random android vendors churns their product lines every couple months with upgrades.
  - GhettoComputers 5y ago
    >Which actually makes them a reasonable choice for this kind of thing if you plan on designing it once, sticking it on box somewhere and expect to be able to buy another in 5-8 years when it dies. I used to think this way but technology moves at a breakneck speed sometimes that the old ways are outdated. I remember being excited for the Pi because it could play quake 3 and had 1080p playback. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18853 https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18853 Now stuff like this exists. http://www.quakejs.com/ http://www.quakejs.com/ https://openarena.live/ https://openarena.live/

GhettoComputers 5y ago

>At this point there aren't any SBC's that are truly faster Which Pi 4 model are you comparing it to? What defines "trash"? You can easily use an older laptop since everyone actually uses x86 and likely has spare hardware. >you stick to the rpi because someone else has already done the heavy lifting. I wouldn't buy hardware with no support, and x86 has the most support. Why does local stores matter for SBCs? People don't really buy hardware at stores since newegg, arrow/digikey/mouser and amazon exist. Online retail killed radioshack, and is currently decimating local buying. Cyber monday deals aren't excluding anyone when most people have amazon prime.

StillBored 5y ago
Well depends on what you mean by "support", but I tend to agree most people would be better served spending a bit more (or repurposing older hw) and getting a recent atom/low end x86. They are surprisingly power efficient these days, and idle as low or lower than the rpi4's, and finding one with multiple NIC's shouldn't be to hard. And most are probably much faster than the A72's on the pi. But you wouldn't see people posting about their successes doing this with a atomicPi, chuwi herobox, or the dozens of other inexpensive x86 machines that might be considered competitors because its assumed one can install $RANDOM_OS and configure vlan+routing with them. OTOH, while the rpi's support is weak they guarantee supplies for a fairly long time. Which actually makes them a reasonable choice for this kind of thing if you plan on designing it once, sticking it on box somewhere and expect to be able to buy another in 5-8 years when it dies. Chuwi like random android vendors churns their product lines every couple months with upgrades.
- GhettoComputers 5y ago
  >Which actually makes them a reasonable choice for this kind of thing if you plan on designing it once, sticking it on box somewhere and expect to be able to buy another in 5-8 years when it dies. I used to think this way but technology moves at a breakneck speed sometimes that the old ways are outdated. I remember being excited for the Pi because it could play quake 3 and had 1080p playback. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18853 https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18853 Now stuff like this exists. http://www.quakejs.com/ http://www.quakejs.com/ https://openarena.live/ https://openarena.live/