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I've used both a Kindle and Nook and found the formatting of books in stores to be poor for the majority of books (but not all). I get out-of-copyright classics

I've used both a Kindle and Nook and found the formatting of books in stores to be poor for the majority of books (but not all). I get out-of-copyright classics (or public domain books) now from places like Feedbooks and Manybooks which do a much better job of quality control on the formatting. Feedbooks.com is my favorite but they only have a few thousand books.

mahyarm 15y ago
Are you mostly buying/downloading free out-of-copyright books from the amazon store?
- FilterJoe 15y ago
  When I had a Kindle, I first mostly bought free or very low cost books from the Amazon, though I checked out excerpts of more expensive books sometimes. Virtually none of them contained waypoints, and only a small fraction had table of contents when warranted. Graphics were terrible across the board (captions on a different page, not appropriately sized, etc. - try reading a Curious George sample to see how terrible it is). If Amazon wants me to invest hundreds of dollars in buying books on their store, they're going to have to do a better job - perhaps some minimum quality guidelines.
  - mahyarm 15y ago
    Did you try more contemporary books, like recent best sellers and so on?
    - FilterJoe 15y ago
      I peeked at a few but didn't buy. Many books are just a long novel with no graphics. For such books, the Kindle store is fine as there are no issues with graphics or missing TOC or waypoints. But when I peeked at books that should have table of contents, quite a few of them didn't - even recent popular books. I didn't do an exhaustive survey by any means, but the few full-priced (at least somewhat) popular contemporary books I checked out on both Kindle and Nook were better done (on average) on the Nook, as table of contents were more often included with Nook books. To me - the fact that I should have to examine quality when paying $10 for a book is inexcusable. In a physical book store I don't have to worry about these things. EDIT: replaced "chapters" with "table of contents"
JonLim 15y ago
I tried to get into out-of-copyright classics but I just can't read them. Call me stupid or uncultured but I prefer a good fiction book that is light hearted and will get me through my commute. Are those really much better formatted though?
- FilterJoe 15y ago
  Here is what I mean by better formatted: Table of Contents always included No funny characters scattered throughout the text No missing paragraphs or words Graphics on the same page as their captions I found I could not count on these things for books in the Amazon or Barnes and Noble stores for low cost or free books. Even more expensive books often lacked table of contents (when one was appropriate - for books with chapters or short stories). More expensive books often lacked appropriate handling of graphics - Nook is bad, Kindle is worse. Feedbooks almost always has table of contents when appropriate, and never has missing paragraphs, funny characters, etc. Though once (out of around 50 books) I encountered a chapter that was the duplicate of the previous chapter. EDIT: formatting
- FilterJoe 15y ago
  As for light-hearted fiction books - there's plenty. I just finished reading all 14 books in the Wizard of Oz series to my son (on my Nook). Zane Grey published a lot of Westerns as well as a few about baseball (I like the baseball ones). There's also some high quality public domain science fiction from authors such as: Harry Harrison (only a few that he forgot to copyright) Cory Doctorow Peter Watts (Blindsight is awesome, Starfish is good too) And if you like any of these, Feedbooks always suggests related titles at the end of the book that you might also like. On Kindles, these are live links for one click downloads. Frankly, I'm amazed that the quality and organization of Feedbooks is so much better than the Nook and Kindle stores. Obviously there are far fewer titles though.

mahyarm 15y ago

Are you mostly buying/downloading free out-of-copyright books from the amazon store?

FilterJoe 15y ago
When I had a Kindle, I first mostly bought free or very low cost books from the Amazon, though I checked out excerpts of more expensive books sometimes. Virtually none of them contained waypoints, and only a small fraction had table of contents when warranted. Graphics were terrible across the board (captions on a different page, not appropriately sized, etc. - try reading a Curious George sample to see how terrible it is). If Amazon wants me to invest hundreds of dollars in buying books on their store, they're going to have to do a better job - perhaps some minimum quality guidelines.
- mahyarm 15y ago
  Did you try more contemporary books, like recent best sellers and so on?
  - FilterJoe 15y ago
    I peeked at a few but didn't buy. Many books are just a long novel with no graphics. For such books, the Kindle store is fine as there are no issues with graphics or missing TOC or waypoints. But when I peeked at books that should have table of contents, quite a few of them didn't - even recent popular books. I didn't do an exhaustive survey by any means, but the few full-priced (at least somewhat) popular contemporary books I checked out on both Kindle and Nook were better done (on average) on the Nook, as table of contents were more often included with Nook books. To me - the fact that I should have to examine quality when paying $10 for a book is inexcusable. In a physical book store I don't have to worry about these things. EDIT: replaced "chapters" with "table of contents"

JonLim 15y ago

I tried to get into out-of-copyright classics but I just can't read them. Call me stupid or uncultured but I prefer a good fiction book that is light hearted and will get me through my commute. Are those really much better formatted though?

FilterJoe 15y ago
Here is what I mean by better formatted: Table of Contents always included No funny characters scattered throughout the text No missing paragraphs or words Graphics on the same page as their captions I found I could not count on these things for books in the Amazon or Barnes and Noble stores for low cost or free books. Even more expensive books often lacked table of contents (when one was appropriate - for books with chapters or short stories). More expensive books often lacked appropriate handling of graphics - Nook is bad, Kindle is worse. Feedbooks almost always has table of contents when appropriate, and never has missing paragraphs, funny characters, etc. Though once (out of around 50 books) I encountered a chapter that was the duplicate of the previous chapter. EDIT: formatting
FilterJoe 15y ago
As for light-hearted fiction books - there's plenty. I just finished reading all 14 books in the Wizard of Oz series to my son (on my Nook). Zane Grey published a lot of Westerns as well as a few about baseball (I like the baseball ones). There's also some high quality public domain science fiction from authors such as: Harry Harrison (only a few that he forgot to copyright) Cory Doctorow Peter Watts (Blindsight is awesome, Starfish is good too) And if you like any of these, Feedbooks always suggests related titles at the end of the book that you might also like. On Kindles, these are live links for one click downloads. Frankly, I'm amazed that the quality and organization of Feedbooks is so much better than the Nook and Kindle stores. Obviously there are far fewer titles though.