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I think the argument isn't generally that non violence is always the only option it's that the current situation doesn't warrant violence. I understand this is

by xupybd 5y ago

I think the argument isn't generally that non violence is always the only option it's that the current situation doesn't warrant violence. I understand this is a subjective point of view as it is in response to police violence. If things are as bad as the media suggests, that racist cops are targeting and killing black men and getting away with it then yes they system needs to be over thrown and the argument to use violence is easy to make. But many don't believe things are that bad. I don't know as I don't live in these neighborhoods. But I think it's valuable to examine why people disagree on the issue.

balancemayvary 5y ago
Hey, that's fine, but keep in mind: Black people don't want to be used as a political football. Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759 https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others.
- staysafeanon 5y ago
  >Black people don't want to be used as a political football. No one does. >Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. They're so fragile. Sad. >Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. This is so 2021 I audibly chuckled. "Objectively examining issues and staying rational is White supremacy culture!" >https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759 https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... Of course! A random Medium post by "Officer A. Cab"! Anyone spreading a bet line on this being a Russian outlet or an antwinkfa member writing fan fiction? >We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others. Somethings affect children more harshly than adults, no doubt.
  - balancemayvary 5y ago
    > They're so fragile. Sad. Careful now, you're showing your power level.
    - staysafeanon 5y ago
      My Power Level: Uncomfortable narrative shattering facts
      - xupybd 5y ago
        It's over 9000! Sorry I couldn't resist.
        staysafeanon 5y ago
        Hah! It definitely is.
      - staysafeanon 5y ago
        Flagged comment above: >Black people don't want to be used as a political football. No one does. >Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. They're so fragile. Sad. >Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. This is so 2021 I audibly chuckled. "Objectively examining issues and staying rational is White supremacy culture!" >https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... Of course! A random Medium post by "Officer A. Cab"! Anyone spreading a bet line on this being a Russian outlet or an antwinkfa member writing fan fiction? >We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others. Somethings affect children more harshly than adults, no doubt.
- professoretc 5y ago
  > Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. > Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. Whenever I read something like this, the cynic in me wants to reply, "If <insert group> are really that psychologically fragile, clearly they're not ready to participate fully in a liberal democratic society, which necessarily requires being to separate oneself and one's emotions from the issues being discussed."
  - pleomonnt 5y ago
    As a matter of fact, every <insert group> is really that psychologically fragile. No more so than a certain <insert group> that is too "psychologically fragile" to handle the terrible burden of having a really well paid, cushy, slack-happy desk job with great benefits and WFH freedom, without a new article about burnout reaching the HN front page every week. As for "being to separate oneself and one's emotions from the issues being discussed"... - That would disqualify effectively much every participant in a modern liberal democracy, rendering it a non-democracy. - That doesn't make much sense to begin with, as the impact of issues and policy on "oneself and one's emotions" is the fundamental measure of good/bad even if you're a robotic utilitarian.

by xupybd 5y ago

balancemayvary 5y ago

Hey, that's fine, but keep in mind: Black people don't want to be used as a political football. Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759 https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others.

staysafeanon 5y ago
>Black people don't want to be used as a political football. No one does. >Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. They're so fragile. Sad. >Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. This is so 2021 I audibly chuckled. "Objectively examining issues and staying rational is White supremacy culture!" >https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard-cop-bb14d17bc759 https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... Of course! A random Medium post by "Officer A. Cab"! Anyone spreading a bet line on this being a Russian outlet or an antwinkfa member writing fan fiction? >We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others. Somethings affect children more harshly than adults, no doubt.
- balancemayvary 5y ago
  > They're so fragile. Sad. Careful now, you're showing your power level.
  - staysafeanon 5y ago
    My Power Level: Uncomfortable narrative shattering facts
    - xupybd 5y ago
      It's over 9000! Sorry I couldn't resist.
      - staysafeanon 5y ago
        Hah! It definitely is.
    - staysafeanon 5y ago
      Flagged comment above: >Black people don't want to be used as a political football. No one does. >Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. It's communal mourning. They're so fragile. Sad. >Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. This is so 2021 I audibly chuckled. "Objectively examining issues and staying rational is White supremacy culture!" >https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard https://medium.com/@OfcrACab/confessions-of-a-former-bastard... Of course! A random Medium post by "Officer A. Cab"! Anyone spreading a bet line on this being a Russian outlet or an antwinkfa member writing fan fiction? >We are all affected, but some much more harshly than others. Somethings affect children more harshly than adults, no doubt.
professoretc 5y ago
> Black people accrue psychic trauma every time another news story like this breaks. > Being able to "examine the issue" without being at this disadvantage is a privilege. Whenever I read something like this, the cynic in me wants to reply, "If <insert group> are really that psychologically fragile, clearly they're not ready to participate fully in a liberal democratic society, which necessarily requires being to separate oneself and one's emotions from the issues being discussed."
- pleomonnt 5y ago
  As a matter of fact, every <insert group> is really that psychologically fragile. No more so than a certain <insert group> that is too "psychologically fragile" to handle the terrible burden of having a really well paid, cushy, slack-happy desk job with great benefits and WFH freedom, without a new article about burnout reaching the HN front page every week. As for "being to separate oneself and one's emotions from the issues being discussed"... - That would disqualify effectively much every participant in a modern liberal democracy, rendering it a non-democracy. - That doesn't make much sense to begin with, as the impact of issues and policy on "oneself and one's emotions" is the fundamental measure of good/bad even if you're a robotic utilitarian.