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> By that standard, this entire website and most of the software industry is misinformation. Sure, if we ignore the context of my statement and this whole disc

> By that standard, this entire website and most of the software industry is misinformation. Sure, if we ignore the context of my statement and this whole discussion, which happens to be about COVID vaccines. Also, please note that what I said -- and what you quoted -- is that if your claim is not supported by peer-reviewed scientific research, then you're offering your opinion. I didn't say that offering your opinion is the same as spreading misinformation. It's only when you're presenting your opinion as a fact that you're engaging in misinformation, which is what I said in the next sentence that you didn't quote. > GP is saying that the conversation is, and should be recognized as, more nuanced than that. "Having a nuanced discussion" and "being responsible with how you say things" are not mutually exclusive propositions. > If you're arguing we should only have evidence based discussion and that anecdotes and opinions don't matter, then you have new problems. Anecdotes and opinions should be clearly presented as such, so that everyone who encounters them can decide how much they matter to them. That's what I'm arguing. > I agree, but it seems GP was indicating this doctor was doing just that and was still silenced. I see nothing there that indicates whether the doctor was doing that or not. Like I said, I don't know whether the doctor "insisted" in a way that made it clear it was his opinion, unsupported by current research.

Viliam1234 5y ago
> It's only when you're presenting your opinion as a fact that you're engaging in misinformation And this sentence is a peer-reviewed fact, or just your opinion that you failed to label appropriately i.e. misinformation?
kodah 5y ago
> I didn't say that offering your opinion is the same as spreading misinformation. > Anecdotes and opinions should be clearly presented as such, so that everyone who encounters them can decide how much they matter to them. That's what I'm arguing Agreed. Though, even data driven analysis is best-effort these days and that is a fact that folks like to ignore in these kinds of discussions. If someone has to make abundantly clear that something is anecdotal or opinion based I can agree to that, but I think a counter-weight needs to be assigned to data: explain the potential for gaps and how historically fraught this area of data has been. That arms folks with the information to assign weights themselves.

Viliam1234 5y ago

> It's only when you're presenting your opinion as a fact that you're engaging in misinformation And this sentence is a peer-reviewed fact, or just your opinion that you failed to label appropriately i.e. misinformation?

kodah 5y ago

> I didn't say that offering your opinion is the same as spreading misinformation. > Anecdotes and opinions should be clearly presented as such, so that everyone who encounters them can decide how much they matter to them. That's what I'm arguing Agreed. Though, even data driven analysis is best-effort these days and that is a fact that folks like to ignore in these kinds of discussions. If someone has to make abundantly clear that something is anecdotal or opinion based I can agree to that, but I think a counter-weight needs to be assigned to data: explain the potential for gaps and how historically fraught this area of data has been. That arms folks with the information to assign weights themselves.