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Indeed. I rationalized it so: COVID is a wild enemy that will do whatever to survive at our own expense. We need to fight and wage all-out war, conscript, treat

by eecc 5y ago

Indeed. I rationalized it so: COVID is a wild enemy that will do whatever to survive at our own expense. We need to fight and wage all-out war, conscript, treat the wounded and comfort the widowed.

ioslipstream 5y ago
So is every illness, potentially, and yet the world never cared before.
- eecc 5y ago
  Yes, like every infectious disease with a high mortality rate and capable of overwhelming our healthcare infrastructure. And no, the world of professionals do care, as always. You’re talking about yourself
swader999 5y ago
The problem is unchecked propaganda could push you to make these same conclusions about anything and anyone.
- eecc 5y ago
  Yes, the slippery slope argument. Anything can be “unchecked propaganda”, you need to prove it is 1. Propaganda and 2. that it is unchecked
effie 5y ago
That is not rational at all. It's a manageable disease class with limited health impact on population, in death numbers comparable to strokes. It is not appropriate to compare it to war at all; in most places people are not afraid of COVID much.
- eecc 5y ago
  It’s only manageable with heavy handed medical care and heavy handed containment to preserve care capacity. Have you been living under a rock or are you just trotting out talking points? Let me ask: how many deaths in the USA alone? How does it compare to KIAs in one of the many US wars? Please stop pretending you know what you’re talking about
  - effie 5y ago
    Let's get some perspective on U.S. deaths in 2020 [1]: [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234 For the whole year 2020, heart disease was 2x bigger killer (700 thousand) than COVID (350 thousand). Cancer was bigger killer still than COVID. Stroke was smaller than COVID - I was wrong about that. COVID gets scary in the few months when it gets out of control, like in January [2]. Those trips are a reason to use some extraordinary measures to prevent next ones. [2] https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-continues-to-be-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s-in-june-2021/ https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-continues... Long term, COVID is a smaller killer than the other killers in the U.S.

by eecc 5y ago

Indeed. I rationalized it so: COVID is a wild enemy that will do whatever to survive at our own expense. We need to fight and wage all-out war, conscript, treat the wounded and comfort the widowed.

ioslipstream 5y ago

So is every illness, potentially, and yet the world never cared before.

eecc 5y ago
Yes, like every infectious disease with a high mortality rate and capable of overwhelming our healthcare infrastructure. And no, the world of professionals do care, as always. You’re talking about yourself

swader999 5y ago

The problem is unchecked propaganda could push you to make these same conclusions about anything and anyone.

eecc 5y ago
Yes, the slippery slope argument. Anything can be “unchecked propaganda”, you need to prove it is 1. Propaganda and 2. that it is unchecked

effie 5y ago

That is not rational at all. It's a manageable disease class with limited health impact on population, in death numbers comparable to strokes. It is not appropriate to compare it to war at all; in most places people are not afraid of COVID much.

eecc 5y ago
It’s only manageable with heavy handed medical care and heavy handed containment to preserve care capacity. Have you been living under a rock or are you just trotting out talking points? Let me ask: how many deaths in the USA alone? How does it compare to KIAs in one of the many US wars? Please stop pretending you know what you’re talking about
- effie 5y ago
  Let's get some perspective on U.S. deaths in 2020 [1]: [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234 For the whole year 2020, heart disease was 2x bigger killer (700 thousand) than COVID (350 thousand). Cancer was bigger killer still than COVID. Stroke was smaller than COVID - I was wrong about that. COVID gets scary in the few months when it gets out of control, like in January [2]. Those trips are a reason to use some extraordinary measures to prevent next ones. [2] https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-continues-to-be-a-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-u-s-in-june-2021/ https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/brief/covid-19-continues... Long term, COVID is a smaller killer than the other killers in the U.S.