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I think America has a very serious problem right now accepting that personal liberties, while important, need to not deride public welfare. It's like the entir
by munk-a 5y ago
I think America has a very serious problem right now accepting that personal liberties, while important, need to not deride public welfare. It's like the entire nation has taken it's anti-anything-socialized fervor to an extreme level and is now becoming self-destructive. During a pandemic it is unacceptable that prominent national politicians vocally fight against societal welfare but that's where we're at.
I'm looking at you guys from up here in Canada where there were some CPC (Conservative Party of Canada) candidates who are still openly anti-vax and the party leader took a lot of shit on the public stage for failing to stamp out their voices. The PPC (People's Party of Canada) by comparison is openly anti-vax and did secure a big chunk of voters (I'd assume the vast majority of anti-vaxers) but again failed to win even the party leader's seat and the GPC (Green Party of Canada) had their turnout decline staunchly after a combination of weak leadership and continued ambiguity over vaccine passport rollout. No where on the main stage except for the PPC (which failed to qualify for the debates) was there any voice actually advocating against vaccination.
This is I think why America has a real problem that the entire world is getting their civil liberties curtailed in order to address. The country needs to get its house in order - it is unacceptable that mask mandate prevention laws have been passed by governors that might legitimately consider a presidential run next year. This is a crisis that needs to be addressed seriously and overcome and at this point governments in the rest of the world are losing their ability to keep order internally because of how fractured the nation has got.
It absolutely sucks that it has come to this - but the domestic government in the US has not been acting competently. Even with both sides of the aisle have technically worked together you still have the BS "We're not going to side with them" crap going on. America has a long, long history of severely curtailing civil liberties - if you think this sort of an action is new I would direct you to one of the most regretful legal frameworks ever issued - the Sedition Act of 1918.
Get vaccinated and get your friends and family vaccinated - get those numbers up so you can be a world leader again.
- robhunter 5y agoCan you point me to the specific sections of the PPC platform that are anti-vaxx? Are you sure you're not conflating anti-vaccine-passport with anti-vaccine?
- lp0_on_fire 5y agoThe ones that conflate people who are anti-vaccine-passport with anti-vaxers in general are usually doing it deliberately.
- munk-a 5y agoNo I think it's quite fair to view the PPC platform as anti-vaxx - the PPC has openly rejected provincial mask mandates and embraced disinformation. Bernier himself has avoided making any direct statements but he has surrounded himself with virulent anti-vaxxers.
- robhunter 5y agoSo... you totally avoided the question. I wasn't asking about mask mandates, or who their leader has surrounded (or not surrounded) himself with. I was asking about anti-vaccine components of their platform. Can you point me toward any? Or were you just speculating?
- munk-a 5y agoThe PPC is essentially the party of Bernier right now - no PPC MP has ever been elected (though they did take home 5% of the popular vote this election). As such the personal actions of Bernier is really all we've got to go on - so I don't believe it's particularly irrelevant, though I won't dispute that it is quite vague and not at all definitive.