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Eh as mentioned above, folks who already want to be convinced Bill Gates is implanting microchips in vaccines to track their movement (as they complain about th

Eh as mentioned above, folks who already want to be convinced Bill Gates is implanting microchips in vaccines to track their movement (as they complain about this via their phone on facebook lol), aren't going to change their minds. Deplatforming works and helps stop disinfomration. The racist Richard Spencer and the rightwing clown Milo Yiannopoulos both say they're broke and unemployed now thanks to everyone banning their racist content. These things are fine to do and work.

h0h0h0h0111 5y ago
A large percentage of the population believe an invisible being in the sky created the universe in 7 days, why is everyone so surprised that a percentage of the population believe Bill Gates is implanting microchips in vaccines?
mdp2021 5y ago
> Deplatforming ... helps stop disinfomration And also confirms the scepticism of those who have grown diffident of dominant narratives. Deplatforming can also stop information. -- The issue is an old epistemological issue: it is the "demarcation problem". We have been there. It's not trivial.
- res0nat0r 5y ago
  In this case though, vaccines save lives and aren't a different narrative, so it's fine to delete disinformation that is getting people killed.
  - mdp2021 5y ago
    No: the words of Halprin were not that "information will be censored that denies that «vaccines save lives»". And if such position existed, I want to hear about it: it may come from a fool, it may come from someone reliable, I cannot know in advance. And "saving lives" must be put in context: it is a generic objective, not a justification for censorship.
Manuel_D 5y ago
I'm very skeptical that deplatforming effectively curbs misinformation. If anything it magnifies it via the Streisand effect. It kicks off headlines, "This is the _______ that big tech doesn't want you to hear!" Focusing on individuals like Spencer and Yiannopoulos is missing the forest for a couple trees. Look at how widespread these people's ideas, as well as anti-vaccine sentiment, had become despite (and perhaps, because of) attempts to crack down on it.

h0h0h0h0111 5y ago

A large percentage of the population believe an invisible being in the sky created the universe in 7 days, why is everyone so surprised that a percentage of the population believe Bill Gates is implanting microchips in vaccines?

mdp2021 5y ago

> Deplatforming ... helps stop disinfomration And also confirms the scepticism of those who have grown diffident of dominant narratives. Deplatforming can also stop information. -- The issue is an old epistemological issue: it is the "demarcation problem". We have been there. It's not trivial.

res0nat0r 5y ago
In this case though, vaccines save lives and aren't a different narrative, so it's fine to delete disinformation that is getting people killed.
- mdp2021 5y ago
  No: the words of Halprin were not that "information will be censored that denies that «vaccines save lives»". And if such position existed, I want to hear about it: it may come from a fool, it may come from someone reliable, I cannot know in advance. And "saving lives" must be put in context: it is a generic objective, not a justification for censorship.

Manuel_D 5y ago

I'm very skeptical that deplatforming effectively curbs misinformation. If anything it magnifies it via the Streisand effect. It kicks off headlines, "This is the _______ that big tech doesn't want you to hear!" Focusing on individuals like Spencer and Yiannopoulos is missing the forest for a couple trees. Look at how widespread these people's ideas, as well as anti-vaccine sentiment, had become despite (and perhaps, because of) attempts to crack down on it.