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Indeed, I prefer "vaccine redundancy" over "vaccine hesitancy". For people who've had Covid before, vaccine is simply redundant. (If you disagree, please provi
by tomp 5y ago
Indeed, I prefer "vaccine redundancy" over "vaccine hesitancy".
For people who've had Covid before, vaccine is simply redundant. (If you disagree, please provide sources / data for your view.) Of course, getting vaccinated would increase their immune system's response, but so would for someone who was vaccinated a month ago... at some point, it has to be "good enough" for normal life (not 100% safe anyways).
- darthvoldemort 5y agoIsraeli study says getting infected creates 13x stronger immune response than the vaccine versus Delta. How much stronger do we need to get that justifies taking the vaccine at that point? This is the entire point of why they say vaccine mandates are wrong for those that already had it.
- tomrod 5y agoDelta isn't, and likely, won't be the only variant. Having a broad response via vaccination helps, even if you have antibodies from prior exposure.
- jaywalk 5y agoYou're missing the point. Prior infection creates a much broader response than vaccination does.
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- tomrod 5y agoNo, the point is clear but missing an essential detail. Vaccination results in much better outcomes when you do get the disease. Ergo the ideal is to be vaccinated, and then if you so happen to get sick, recovery is quicker and you have a stronger immune response.
- jaywalk 5y agoWhat are you talking about? I've seen studies that suggest vaccination in addition to natural immunity can result in higher levels of antibodies, but I've seen nothing to suggest that vaccination results in "much better outcomes" as compared to natural immunity. People with natural immunity aren't even getting infected in any meaningful numbers, while fully vaccinated individuals are getting infected left and right.
- tomrod 5y agoYou jumped ahead a bit. Let me clarify. If you are unvaccinated and have not had the disease, then if you get infected your prognosis is much poorer than being vaccinated. If you are vaccinated and get infected, you have a better outcome. If you are both vaccinated and have had prior immunity, see the discussion on other threads in this discussion.
- darthvoldemort 5y agoYou forgot: If you are unvaccinated and previously got infected, you now have a much better outcome than being vaccinated, including from future variants of the virus.
- jaywalk 5y agoYou are now banned from YouTube.
- tastyfreeze 5y agoVaccination provides immune system training for exactly one viral protein. Recovery from natural infection provides immune system training for all proteins present in the variant that caused the infection. Vaccination only provides an immune response for the spike protein, not a broad response.
- WalterSear 5y agohttps://abc7news.com/covid-immunity-coronavirus-vaccines-cdc-study-unvaccinated-people-who-had-twice-as-likely-to-get-reinfected/10936598/ https://abc7news.com/covid-immunity-coronavirus-vaccines-cdc...
- tomp 5y agoThis article is misleading misinformation. > "I've had COVID - therefore I don't need to get the vaccine." Turns out that's not entirely true. On Friday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released a study reporting that individuals who've had COVID are twice as likely to get reinfected The article makes it sounds as if prior infection makes it 2x as likely to get infected as having the vaccine. In reality, the study is only comparing previously infected individuals. So it's "just Covid" vs "Covid + vaccine". This is obvious. My original claim is, that "just Covid" is better (or equally good) as "just vaccine".
- WalterSear 5y agoThe reporter's slant and choice of words is irrelevant. It looks a lot like you are looking for reasons to ignore the evidence. No one can help you if contrarianism is your end goal, and you can harm others plenty. And, this is exactly why youtube is banning speech right now.