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> If only Hacker News crowd noticed when thousands of videos with interviews, medical lectures, news footage and even congressional testimonies were removed for

by rewma 5y ago

> If only Hacker News crowd noticed when thousands of videos with interviews, medical lectures, news footage and even congressional testimonies were removed for political reasons within the last couple years. Do you happen to have any reference that points out which content was removed for political reasons? You're on HN. If said censorship exists then nothing stops you from pointing it on HN.

zepolen 5y ago
HN is cens^H^H^H^H moderated too, you're in lala land if you think otherwise.
- reducesuffering 5y ago
  Even 4chan is moderated. You're welcome to join 8chan or whatever other unmoderated cesspool exists and enjoy it's riveting discussion...
  - zepolen 5y ago
    Even 8chan contains more thought provoking two sided discussion than some <ahem> echo chambers.
    - reducesuffering 5y ago
      Personally, I’d let the results of the audience decide which is considered more “thought provoking”; a dozen CEO’s or some mass murderers?
      - zepolen 5y ago
        You think CEOs really discuss here? It's used as a tool to gather information and marketing, besides, successful CEOs and mass murderers are cut from the same cloth. I would go far as to say on uncensored platforms one sees the true nature of humans not bound by society and that's eye opening for the one who's fast asleep. Better to be informed of reality than sweep under the rug and creating a faketopia where one is required to choose words carefully that the powers that be agree with, history tells us what that path that leads to.
      - deleted 5y ago
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gambler 5y ago
What exactly do you expect me to link to? A thousand "this video does not exist" pages? YouTube does not track its own moderation. That's part of the problem. Here are some well-written examples by Matt Taibi: https://taibbi.substack.com/?sort=search&search=censored https://taibbi.substack.com/?sort=search&search=censored Here is Glenn Greenvald explaining why he moved to Rumble: https://rumble.com/vl268j-welcome-to-glenn-greenwalds-system-update.html https://rumble.com/vl268j-welcome-to-glenn-greenwalds-system... Note that he doesn't claim he was censored. He just doesn't want to support a platform that censors in general. ... The latest example I've seen directly was a strike against Dr. Mobeen Sayd's channel because he interviewed Pierre Kory. To put it into context, it's a channel from an MD with 10 years worth of educational content. It got a confirmed strike last week because he interviewed another doctor several month ago. There were also 50+ other videos deleted from the channel. This is the video in question: https://odysee.com/@DrMobeenSyed:1/dr.-pierre-kory,-ivermectin-(let%E2%80%99s:4 https://odysee.com/@DrMobeenSyed:1/dr.-pierre-kory,-ivermect... Here is YouTube search confirming it does not exist on the original channel anymore: https://www.youtube.com/c/USMLEOnline/search?query=Dr.%20Pierre%20Kory%2C%20Ivermectin%20(Let%E2%80%99s%20help%20end%20the%20pandemic https://www.youtube.com/c/USMLEOnline/search?query=Dr.%20Pie....) It's time-consuming to provide these examples and it's impossible to know when people are asking for proof in good faith and when they are just play-acting ignorance.
- tremon 5y ago
  You don't see any difference between the concrete links in this post and the handwavy allegations in your prior post? If it's not worth your time, don't bring it up.

by rewma 5y ago

zepolen 5y ago

HN is cens^H^H^H^H moderated too, you're in lala land if you think otherwise.

reducesuffering 5y ago
Even 4chan is moderated. You're welcome to join 8chan or whatever other unmoderated cesspool exists and enjoy it's riveting discussion...
- zepolen 5y ago
  Even 8chan contains more thought provoking two sided discussion than some <ahem> echo chambers.
  - reducesuffering 5y ago
    Personally, I’d let the results of the audience decide which is considered more “thought provoking”; a dozen CEO’s or some mass murderers?
    - zepolen 5y ago
      You think CEOs really discuss here? It's used as a tool to gather information and marketing, besides, successful CEOs and mass murderers are cut from the same cloth. I would go far as to say on uncensored platforms one sees the true nature of humans not bound by society and that's eye opening for the one who's fast asleep. Better to be informed of reality than sweep under the rug and creating a faketopia where one is required to choose words carefully that the powers that be agree with, history tells us what that path that leads to.
    - deleted 5y ago
      [deleted]

gambler 5y ago

What exactly do you expect me to link to? A thousand "this video does not exist" pages? YouTube does not track its own moderation. That's part of the problem. Here are some well-written examples by Matt Taibi: https://taibbi.substack.com/?sort=search&search=censored https://taibbi.substack.com/?sort=search&search=censored Here is Glenn Greenvald explaining why he moved to Rumble: https://rumble.com/vl268j-welcome-to-glenn-greenwalds-system-update.html https://rumble.com/vl268j-welcome-to-glenn-greenwalds-system... Note that he doesn't claim he was censored. He just doesn't want to support a platform that censors in general. ... The latest example I've seen directly was a strike against Dr. Mobeen Sayd's channel because he interviewed Pierre Kory. To put it into context, it's a channel from an MD with 10 years worth of educational content. It got a confirmed strike last week because he interviewed another doctor several month ago. There were also 50+ other videos deleted from the channel. This is the video in question: https://odysee.com/@DrMobeenSyed:1/dr.-pierre-kory,-ivermectin-(let%E2%80%99s:4 https://odysee.com/@DrMobeenSyed:1/dr.-pierre-kory,-ivermect... Here is YouTube search confirming it does not exist on the original channel anymore: https://www.youtube.com/c/USMLEOnline/search?query=Dr.%20Pierre%20Kory%2C%20Ivermectin%20(Let%E2%80%99s%20help%20end%20the%20pandemic https://www.youtube.com/c/USMLEOnline/search?query=Dr.%20Pie....) It's time-consuming to provide these examples and it's impossible to know when people are asking for proof in good faith and when they are just play-acting ignorance.

tremon 5y ago
You don't see any difference between the concrete links in this post and the handwavy allegations in your prior post? If it's not worth your time, don't bring it up.