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You are right, we need to ban the actively harmful content. Let's start with the stuff you like and want to hear that is problematic. You like cooking content?

You are right, we need to ban the actively harmful content. Let's start with the stuff you like and want to hear that is problematic. You like cooking content? Well cooking unapproved dishes is associated with obesity. Banned! You like hiking and being outdoors? Well, it disturbs animal habitat and ecosystems. Banned! You oppose and want to speak out about the mandatory microphones and cameras in every room of your house? Well, that clearly interferes with the greater good of catching people trying to commit suicide, avert domestic harm, make sure you are raising your child properly and in accordance with expert approved government requirements, and to make sure you are getting your mandatory amount of exercise of the required energy expenditure every day in order to not be a burden on society ……

afavour 5y ago
But those are all obviously, patently absurd. You’re proving my point. The slippery slope argument immediately descends into hysteria and pretends like people aren’t capable of understanding context.
- frankfrankfrank 5y ago
  You are literally sliding down the slope where the government is mandating the injection of untested corporate concoctions that it gave the manufacturers blanket immunity from liability for and you have been under prison lockdown home confinement for essentially 18 months now to "flatten the curve" for 2 weeks. You seem to have lost all ability to objectively see what is going on. The rather anemic response to the tyrannical state descending on all of us is hardly "hysteria". You think that after we "flatten the curve" for two weeks we are going back to normal … as all kinds of draconian and oppressive laws are being rammed through all legislatures at the same time? You may think yourself as safe since you were an obedient little citizen to Government Inc., but they will come for you too one day, they always do once you have outlived your usefulness.
  - afavour 5y ago
    You're embarrassing yourself now and you've proving the point about utter hysteria. > the government is mandating the injection of untested corporate concoctions They've been tested. Thoroughly. The results of those tests are public. And what's with the "corporate" scare word, there? Am I suppose to want my vaccine to have been brewed up by my neighbor or my local mom and pop drug store? > you have been under prison lockdown home confinement for essentially 18 months now No I haven't. No-one has. The lockdown lasted longer than two weeks but it finished last summer. Since then I've been shopping, eating at restaurants (usually outdoors, but indoors is available) and seeing friends. My children are at school, many people are back in their offices. > they will come for you too one day, they always do once you have outlived your usefulness. I'm going to go ahead and quote yourself back to you: you seem to have lost all ability to objectively see what is going on. But yeah, yeah, I know. We're all idiot sheep, you're the only one with the 20:20 vision to see what the rest of us idiots don't. It couldn't possibly be that we're all informed and came to a different conclusion to you. Nope, not possible.
EL_Loco 5y ago
But no one is saying these contents should be banned. You can publish it, everywhere! Create a hundred sites and post it, feel free! Now, if I don't want it on my site, why can't I take it down? You're saying that if I create a video site for videos of healthy dishes, that I should not be able to take down a video recipe for something that I think is very unhealthy.
- josephcsible 5y ago
  > Create a hundred sites and post it, feel free! When you do that, then they come for your hosting providers and payment processors.
- angelzen 5y ago
  London, circa 1830. Nobody is saying you have to work 70 hours weeks in a cotton factory. You can grow your own cotton, feel free to process it any way you want! As long as the attention market concentrates in the hands of a handful of megacorporations by virtue of economies of scale, the freedom you talk about is not very tangible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_in_Great_Britain_during_the_Industrial_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_in_Great_Britain_during_t...
  - EL_Loco 5y ago
    I wish I didn't have to work 40 hours a week. Can I just go to some random plot of arable land that isn't cultivated and start farming? Can I just process it any way I want? US, circa 2021.

afavour 5y ago

But those are all obviously, patently absurd. You’re proving my point. The slippery slope argument immediately descends into hysteria and pretends like people aren’t capable of understanding context.

frankfrankfrank 5y ago
You are literally sliding down the slope where the government is mandating the injection of untested corporate concoctions that it gave the manufacturers blanket immunity from liability for and you have been under prison lockdown home confinement for essentially 18 months now to "flatten the curve" for 2 weeks. You seem to have lost all ability to objectively see what is going on. The rather anemic response to the tyrannical state descending on all of us is hardly "hysteria". You think that after we "flatten the curve" for two weeks we are going back to normal … as all kinds of draconian and oppressive laws are being rammed through all legislatures at the same time? You may think yourself as safe since you were an obedient little citizen to Government Inc., but they will come for you too one day, they always do once you have outlived your usefulness.
- afavour 5y ago
  You're embarrassing yourself now and you've proving the point about utter hysteria. > the government is mandating the injection of untested corporate concoctions They've been tested. Thoroughly. The results of those tests are public. And what's with the "corporate" scare word, there? Am I suppose to want my vaccine to have been brewed up by my neighbor or my local mom and pop drug store? > you have been under prison lockdown home confinement for essentially 18 months now No I haven't. No-one has. The lockdown lasted longer than two weeks but it finished last summer. Since then I've been shopping, eating at restaurants (usually outdoors, but indoors is available) and seeing friends. My children are at school, many people are back in their offices. > they will come for you too one day, they always do once you have outlived your usefulness. I'm going to go ahead and quote yourself back to you: you seem to have lost all ability to objectively see what is going on. But yeah, yeah, I know. We're all idiot sheep, you're the only one with the 20:20 vision to see what the rest of us idiots don't. It couldn't possibly be that we're all informed and came to a different conclusion to you. Nope, not possible.

EL_Loco 5y ago

But no one is saying these contents should be banned. You can publish it, everywhere! Create a hundred sites and post it, feel free! Now, if I don't want it on my site, why can't I take it down? You're saying that if I create a video site for videos of healthy dishes, that I should not be able to take down a video recipe for something that I think is very unhealthy.

josephcsible 5y ago
> Create a hundred sites and post it, feel free! When you do that, then they come for your hosting providers and payment processors.
angelzen 5y ago
London, circa 1830. Nobody is saying you have to work 70 hours weeks in a cotton factory. You can grow your own cotton, feel free to process it any way you want! As long as the attention market concentrates in the hands of a handful of megacorporations by virtue of economies of scale, the freedom you talk about is not very tangible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_in_Great_Britain_during_the_Industrial_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_in_Great_Britain_during_t...
- EL_Loco 5y ago
  I wish I didn't have to work 40 hours a week. Can I just go to some random plot of arable land that isn't cultivated and start farming? Can I just process it any way I want? US, circa 2021.