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Or this way, let’s say that YouTube hosts earlier anti-mask content from Dr. Fauci/CDC and as a result some percentage of people are swayed by this content to

Or this way, let’s say that YouTube hosts earlier anti-mask content from Dr. Fauci/CDC and as a result some percentage of people are swayed by this content to not wear mask. Some percentage of them dies. Do you think that YouTube did a good thing by allowing that content?

hef19898 5y ago
Yes, because back then (as much as a communications fuck-up that was) this was scientific consensus. What Youtube is banning is pure propaganda and falsehoods.
- dongping 5y ago
  The scientific consensus was that there was no evidence that mask would work (or not work) for 2019-nCoV. There's plenty of evidence that it helps prevent transmission of other respiratory viruses. So which hypothesis would have most likely been true at the time? Not to mention that Dr. Fauci himself had admitted that it was a noble lie (aka pure propaganda and falsehoods).
  - IgorPartola 5y ago
    That’s a slightly better description of what happened. And I will say it again: two wrongs don’t make a right.
    - dongping 5y ago
      Surely it would be great if you might provide a better description of the event (and the timeline, long after the outbreak in Wuhan).
      - IgorPartola 5y ago
        Surely. But frankly I don’t feel like it.
- conradfr 5y ago
  Does Youtube reinstate the videos when they become true? ;)
  - hef19898 5y ago
    Not directed at you, just to get that out of the way. But I am quite fed up that the masks-don't-help meme is constantly brought up. That was in early 2020, a lot of mistakes were made back then because nobody really knew what they were doing. Especially because it usually brought up by people that are consistently wrong about pretty much everything, while propagating active lies, as a defense against anyone pointing out the utter BS they are spreading. That gets tiresome.
    - josephcsible 5y ago
      The problem is that on the one hand, you're saying the WHO and CDC are made up of humans, and all humans make mistakes once in a while, but on the other hand, you're saying the current positions of the WHO and CDC are 100% correct, and anyone who disagrees with them needs to be silenced.
      - hef19898 5y ago
        Ah, I didn't say that, did I? I am just tired of having the mask debacle from early 2020, and that is the only real issue that is constantly brought up to discredit the WHO/CDC.... because as you said, people make mistakes. I, for what it's worth, trust people that correct their mistakes over people that never do. because the latter never learn. And they have the tendency to put as much theories out as they can. Because then they have a high chance of being right at least once. Doing that long enough and they can claim to be right all the time. Which, obviously, they aren't. But it's incredibly hard to call them out on it.
JaimeThompson 5y ago
Is youtube doing a good thing by allowing content that says graphine oxide will kill you and/or that masks cause brain damage to kids?
- dongping 5y ago
  I think Youtube did a great job NOT banning pro-mask videos which were clearly against CDC recommendation. Or I would suggest that thought police should lock those with the above-mentioned opinions up.
clipradiowallet 5y ago
> Do you think that YouTube did a good thing by allowing that content? They didn't do a good or a bad thing - they were a blank canvas someone put their art(video) on. Recently, that blank canvas is only willing to have certain art present on it - that's not a good thing. The only thing keeping it going is an inertial mass of subscribers, which over [possibly a long] time will dissipate.

hef19898 5y ago

Yes, because back then (as much as a communications fuck-up that was) this was scientific consensus. What Youtube is banning is pure propaganda and falsehoods.

dongping 5y ago
The scientific consensus was that there was no evidence that mask would work (or not work) for 2019-nCoV. There's plenty of evidence that it helps prevent transmission of other respiratory viruses. So which hypothesis would have most likely been true at the time? Not to mention that Dr. Fauci himself had admitted that it was a noble lie (aka pure propaganda and falsehoods).
- IgorPartola 5y ago
  That’s a slightly better description of what happened. And I will say it again: two wrongs don’t make a right.
  - dongping 5y ago
    Surely it would be great if you might provide a better description of the event (and the timeline, long after the outbreak in Wuhan).
    - IgorPartola 5y ago
      Surely. But frankly I don’t feel like it.
conradfr 5y ago
Does Youtube reinstate the videos when they become true? ;)
- hef19898 5y ago
  Not directed at you, just to get that out of the way. But I am quite fed up that the masks-don't-help meme is constantly brought up. That was in early 2020, a lot of mistakes were made back then because nobody really knew what they were doing. Especially because it usually brought up by people that are consistently wrong about pretty much everything, while propagating active lies, as a defense against anyone pointing out the utter BS they are spreading. That gets tiresome.
  - josephcsible 5y ago
    The problem is that on the one hand, you're saying the WHO and CDC are made up of humans, and all humans make mistakes once in a while, but on the other hand, you're saying the current positions of the WHO and CDC are 100% correct, and anyone who disagrees with them needs to be silenced.
    - hef19898 5y ago
      Ah, I didn't say that, did I? I am just tired of having the mask debacle from early 2020, and that is the only real issue that is constantly brought up to discredit the WHO/CDC.... because as you said, people make mistakes. I, for what it's worth, trust people that correct their mistakes over people that never do. because the latter never learn. And they have the tendency to put as much theories out as they can. Because then they have a high chance of being right at least once. Doing that long enough and they can claim to be right all the time. Which, obviously, they aren't. But it's incredibly hard to call them out on it.

JaimeThompson 5y ago

Is youtube doing a good thing by allowing content that says graphine oxide will kill you and/or that masks cause brain damage to kids?

dongping 5y ago
I think Youtube did a great job NOT banning pro-mask videos which were clearly against CDC recommendation. Or I would suggest that thought police should lock those with the above-mentioned opinions up.

clipradiowallet 5y ago

> Do you think that YouTube did a good thing by allowing that content? They didn't do a good or a bad thing - they were a blank canvas someone put their art(video) on. Recently, that blank canvas is only willing to have certain art present on it - that's not a good thing. The only thing keeping it going is an inertial mass of subscribers, which over [possibly a long] time will dissipate.