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Employment is at-will in the USA. They can fire you on day one no questions asked.

literallyaduck 5y ago
In a lot of States that is true, but not all. https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-exceptions-by-state.aspx https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-e...
- kube-system 5y ago
  Those are a list specific exemptions to at-will-employment; all of them follow at-will-employment other than those exemptions.
- MrWiffles 5y ago
  Maybe it didn’t display because mobile, but could you or someone explain what each heading in that table means? I’ve never heard of ANY exception to at-will, and I’m in the process of figuring out which state I want to live in now that I’ve decided to leave Texas for good (long story). I’d like to have some idea of the employment protections, such as they are, available in other states and this looks like a great start-if I knew what each heading meant!
LanceH 5y ago
The damage is enticing someone to leave, not that you aren't employing them. I've never heard of this being decided in court in either direction. It's almost guaranteed to cost too much, though.
marcusverus 5y ago
Does that matter? The issue isn't that they fired you, per se, it's that they misled you with an explicit promise of employment and caused you to quit a different job. It'd be one thing if they hired you, decided that you sucked on day one, and fired you--that would seem like an at-will employment case. But firing you before you even start seems different.
- sys_64738 5y ago
  Companies withdraw offers of employment all the time though.
refurb 5y ago
True, but as others have said, if they never follow through on actually hiring you they reneged on a promise. Again, it’s all shades of gray and likely heavily depends on your state of employment, but I’m not sure there are too many companies that would like to waste tens of thousands on lawyers when you bring a case. At a minimum you might get some token payment to make you go away that helps cover some of the costs incurred. Obviously an employment lawyer would be the best to determine if that works in your particular situation.
- kcplate 5y ago
  > they never follow through on actually hiring you they reneged on a promise. The article said the final offer was contingency offer. Pretty confident that if I leave a job to take another based on offer with a contingency that I have no control over…the only person at fault if I end up with no job is me.

In a lot of States that is true, but not all. https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-employment-exceptions-by-state.aspx https://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/at-will-e...

kube-system 5y ago
Those are a list specific exemptions to at-will-employment; all of them follow at-will-employment other than those exemptions.
MrWiffles 5y ago
Maybe it didn’t display because mobile, but could you or someone explain what each heading in that table means? I’ve never heard of ANY exception to at-will, and I’m in the process of figuring out which state I want to live in now that I’ve decided to leave Texas for good (long story). I’d like to have some idea of the employment protections, such as they are, available in other states and this looks like a great start-if I knew what each heading meant!

LanceH 5y ago

The damage is enticing someone to leave, not that you aren't employing them. I've never heard of this being decided in court in either direction. It's almost guaranteed to cost too much, though.

marcusverus 5y ago

Does that matter? The issue isn't that they fired you, per se, it's that they misled you with an explicit promise of employment and caused you to quit a different job. It'd be one thing if they hired you, decided that you sucked on day one, and fired you--that would seem like an at-will employment case. But firing you before you even start seems different.

sys_64738 5y ago
Companies withdraw offers of employment all the time though.

refurb 5y ago

True, but as others have said, if they never follow through on actually hiring you they reneged on a promise. Again, it’s all shades of gray and likely heavily depends on your state of employment, but I’m not sure there are too many companies that would like to waste tens of thousands on lawyers when you bring a case. At a minimum you might get some token payment to make you go away that helps cover some of the costs incurred. Obviously an employment lawyer would be the best to determine if that works in your particular situation.

kcplate 5y ago
> they never follow through on actually hiring you they reneged on a promise. The article said the final offer was contingency offer. Pretty confident that if I leave a job to take another based on offer with a contingency that I have no control over…the only person at fault if I end up with no job is me.