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I'm intrigued by your reply, but admittedly I don't understand some of what you're saying... As for the captchas, I have noticed some obviously (poorly) AI-gen

by blunte 5y ago

I'm intrigued by your reply, but admittedly I don't understand some of what you're saying... As for the captchas, I have noticed some obviously (poorly) AI-generated images... vehicles with really warped wheels (like the ears of some AI faces), and other tell-tale signs of unreality. But expanding on this general idea, we all have built in concepts of beauty and sex and coupling. Can this be distilled to some essence which could be represented in very non-human ways but still produce the same emotional response? A horny man (and from what I read, a horny woman also) can project sexual imagery over even the most mundane objects and movements. A piston in an engine? A pressure valve in a hydraulic system? I'm being a bit absurd, but humans are quite good at pattern matching in strange situations. If someone can figure out how to provide sexual stimulation without being considered pornographic, this could be ... I cannot think of an expression which would not be gratuitously sexual. It would be a big deal. Nope, that was a bit sexual. But you get the idea.

themodelplumber 5y ago
Yeah. It's really subjective and intuitive, it requires suspension of disbelief, maybe pants also, but the cultural progression is so clear, I mean just when you get done casting a rather masculine form of effeminate space hero to wide acclaim--OK you threw in a kitty cat, but still--you start to get feedback from keyed-up audience members to show more of the android, too. Or IDK, those aliens themselves looking kind of interesting. And spaceships, we are starting to worry ourselves now because are these metaphors really us, or what is reality, it's all kind of uncomfortable because I know what is real...and here is where interesting thought models go to die, this R-word. The word that makes us take ourselves so seriously that the S-word is thought of as a mockery of our R-word, because in R-life, the S-word is only transacted in weaker moments or whatever. The most interesting model for this to me is simply sensory variety and juxtaposition with developmental implications. E.g. once you find this place of security, you want more, but _different_ more. Maybe you're not ready to admit it, and what it looks like, or COULD look like, but I think an algorithm could easily blow past questions like this because who are you going to blame for these machinistic extrapolations which also beckon waves of deep pleasure. Something like that could totally leapfrog those questions, similar to the way Kurgesagt recently and cleanly leapfrogged my valued position as the family science teacher. Was it Kurgesagt, or was it Youtube? The internet? Who causes what? Well, here we are, anyway. I think maybe even the topic of sexuality could be leapfrogged, go away with a whimper but ideally it also brings the whimper forward and builds upon it, despite any groans from those disinclined few...and then gone, and here we are and why use that old word which is now a valued form of intrinsic energy available to humankind...another old word...
- blunte 5y ago
  Well, I feel somewhat infantile and not understanding many of these words, but still grasping the concept. I did get this: you want more, but _different_ more This is absolutely true. We thrive on new experiences; but not so new as they don't connect to our previous experiences. Also, the concept of sexuality being leapfrogged - it's perhaps only the relatively modern concept of sexuality that needs to be leapfrogged. Scrolling back a few thousand years (a blip in human history), it is debatable whether the concept of sexuality even existed.
- kubanczyk 5y ago
  It looks like you have some interesting concepts. But I'm unable to follow any of it. If you try to make each sentence into a paragraph on its own, and then copyedit to get rid of the extra words, as well as to dumb down the phrases which (probably) sound sophisticated to you by two levels or more, I promise I will give it a lot of time and full attention. Pinky swear. Is the android an effeminate space hero? Or someone else? What does the acclaim have to do with any of it? Stumbling on the very first sentence.

by blunte 5y ago

themodelplumber 5y ago

Yeah. It's really subjective and intuitive, it requires suspension of disbelief, maybe pants also, but the cultural progression is so clear, I mean just when you get done casting a rather masculine form of effeminate space hero to wide acclaim--OK you threw in a kitty cat, but still--you start to get feedback from keyed-up audience members to show more of the android, too. Or IDK, those aliens themselves looking kind of interesting. And spaceships, we are starting to worry ourselves now because are these metaphors really us, or what is reality, it's all kind of uncomfortable because I know what is real...and here is where interesting thought models go to die, this R-word. The word that makes us take ourselves so seriously that the S-word is thought of as a mockery of our R-word, because in R-life, the S-word is only transacted in weaker moments or whatever. The most interesting model for this to me is simply sensory variety and juxtaposition with developmental implications. E.g. once you find this place of security, you want more, but _different_ more. Maybe you're not ready to admit it, and what it looks like, or COULD look like, but I think an algorithm could easily blow past questions like this because who are you going to blame for these machinistic extrapolations which also beckon waves of deep pleasure. Something like that could totally leapfrog those questions, similar to the way Kurgesagt recently and cleanly leapfrogged my valued position as the family science teacher. Was it Kurgesagt, or was it Youtube? The internet? Who causes what? Well, here we are, anyway. I think maybe even the topic of sexuality could be leapfrogged, go away with a whimper but ideally it also brings the whimper forward and builds upon it, despite any groans from those disinclined few...and then gone, and here we are and why use that old word which is now a valued form of intrinsic energy available to humankind...another old word...

blunte 5y ago
Well, I feel somewhat infantile and not understanding many of these words, but still grasping the concept. I did get this: you want more, but _different_ more This is absolutely true. We thrive on new experiences; but not so new as they don't connect to our previous experiences. Also, the concept of sexuality being leapfrogged - it's perhaps only the relatively modern concept of sexuality that needs to be leapfrogged. Scrolling back a few thousand years (a blip in human history), it is debatable whether the concept of sexuality even existed.
kubanczyk 5y ago
It looks like you have some interesting concepts. But I'm unable to follow any of it. If you try to make each sentence into a paragraph on its own, and then copyedit to get rid of the extra words, as well as to dumb down the phrases which (probably) sound sophisticated to you by two levels or more, I promise I will give it a lot of time and full attention. Pinky swear. Is the android an effeminate space hero? Or someone else? What does the acclaim have to do with any of it? Stumbling on the very first sentence.