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Not sure why you're downvoted. The comment is obviously angry. But, at this point you can write a book about the "greatest levels of stupid that started in univ

by screye 5y ago

Not sure why you're downvoted. The comment is obviously angry. But, at this point you can write a book about the "greatest levels of stupid that started in university". Across all movements and institutions, a small minority of radicals ruin it for the entire community. For some reason, Academia loves to act as if their radicals are not representative of the institution, while using the same guilt-by-association to criticize and often ostracize every other group that crosses them the wrong way. The exasperation in the tone of the above poster, is IMO, fully justified. Alarmism is always looked at badly, but alarms exist for a reason. Sometimes things are that bad and an alarmist response is commensurate. I think it is one of those times. Ofc, like every other precursor to disaster, these alarmists will be ignored. Then in a few decades time, someone will say, "How did we not see it coming?", and a few of us will roll in graves rather vigorously. > makes me very scared for the next some years when this comes to real life Me too mate. Me too.

Jensson 5y ago
It wont come to real life though. If one company fires tons of great engineers for SJW reasons then other companies will thank them and hire all of them instantly. And if the SJW types would infiltrate all the big companies at once those Engineers would just create a new company where they make the rules.
- userbinator 5y ago
  I think the SJWs have already infiltrated all the big software companies, if the trend in quality of the latters' output is any indication. Inconsistent UI? Bugs (sometimes catastrophic) everywhere? They're just being diverse and inclusive! </s>
  - Jensson 5y ago
    > Inconsistent UI? Bugs (sometimes catastrophic) everywhere? Can you name a time when big companies didn't have those problems? To me the problem seems to be related to being big, not SJW.
    - systemvoltage 5y ago
      Have you ever been to a Javascript conference? It's like the biggest wokefest. Somehow, the JS ecosystem also has the most insane turnover of frameworks, bugs galore and utter lack of respect for robustness, excellence or quality. Coincidence? There are exceptions of course but they're far and fewer.
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      - Jensson 5y ago
        I don't consider conferences to be the "real world", but yeah for some reason conferences tend to be run by people who loves to invite speakers based on gender and race.
        da_big_ghey 5y ago
        I will make the mention that in actuality Rust is worse here, I am very sad in this point since I like this language. But I am new to it and find out that the mascot is a "gender non-binary", some woke thing. Here is only one example, but community over all is rather hostile against people with "traditional views" (most of the world, I will comment, and much of U.S.) Is good language and I will keep making use but not engage much with community. Edit: this comment it was flagged in one minute of post, unsure as why
        effingwewt 5y ago
        OT-The flagged/dead comments above and below yours greatly signal the feels>facts that has been invading HN for years now. Both the comments were correct, and were simply pointing this out, there were no personal attacks or anything. The wokeness of all conferences made me stop going completely (tech, Ted, comics/games/fandom). I can't even go to tabletop conventions anymore. Blah blah faux pas to mention downvotes fuck that I'm tired of trolls and CEOs for companies using the forum's rules against us (be polite, charitable interpretation - those should be suspended when dealing with people speaking on behalf of companies, especially since no company ever told the truth, ever.) If they had said something egregious, OK, but neither did. Jenssons comment even agreed yet was left unscathed. Several comments in this thread have been simply pointing out facts only to be greyed out. This wouldn't matter if everyone was defaulted to showdead, but many don't even know about it.
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- bobthechef 5y ago
  > those Engineers would just create a new company where they make the rules And if the law changes? Or the culture becomes hostile? This libertarian fantasy that you can just leave is nice, but not always possible.

by screye 5y ago

Jensson 5y ago

It wont come to real life though. If one company fires tons of great engineers for SJW reasons then other companies will thank them and hire all of them instantly. And if the SJW types would infiltrate all the big companies at once those Engineers would just create a new company where they make the rules.

userbinator 5y ago
I think the SJWs have already infiltrated all the big software companies, if the trend in quality of the latters' output is any indication. Inconsistent UI? Bugs (sometimes catastrophic) everywhere? They're just being diverse and inclusive! </s>
- Jensson 5y ago
  > Inconsistent UI? Bugs (sometimes catastrophic) everywhere? Can you name a time when big companies didn't have those problems? To me the problem seems to be related to being big, not SJW.
  - systemvoltage 5y ago
    Have you ever been to a Javascript conference? It's like the biggest wokefest. Somehow, the JS ecosystem also has the most insane turnover of frameworks, bugs galore and utter lack of respect for robustness, excellence or quality. Coincidence? There are exceptions of course but they're far and fewer.
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    - Jensson 5y ago
      I don't consider conferences to be the "real world", but yeah for some reason conferences tend to be run by people who loves to invite speakers based on gender and race.
      - da_big_ghey 5y ago
        I will make the mention that in actuality Rust is worse here, I am very sad in this point since I like this language. But I am new to it and find out that the mascot is a "gender non-binary", some woke thing. Here is only one example, but community over all is rather hostile against people with "traditional views" (most of the world, I will comment, and much of U.S.) Is good language and I will keep making use but not engage much with community. Edit: this comment it was flagged in one minute of post, unsure as why
      - effingwewt 5y ago
        OT-The flagged/dead comments above and below yours greatly signal the feels>facts that has been invading HN for years now. Both the comments were correct, and were simply pointing this out, there were no personal attacks or anything. The wokeness of all conferences made me stop going completely (tech, Ted, comics/games/fandom). I can't even go to tabletop conventions anymore. Blah blah faux pas to mention downvotes fuck that I'm tired of trolls and CEOs for companies using the forum's rules against us (be polite, charitable interpretation - those should be suspended when dealing with people speaking on behalf of companies, especially since no company ever told the truth, ever.) If they had said something egregious, OK, but neither did. Jenssons comment even agreed yet was left unscathed. Several comments in this thread have been simply pointing out facts only to be greyed out. This wouldn't matter if everyone was defaulted to showdead, but many don't even know about it.
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bobthechef 5y ago
> those Engineers would just create a new company where they make the rules And if the law changes? Or the culture becomes hostile? This libertarian fantasy that you can just leave is nice, but not always possible.