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I respectfully disagree with it I actually can say that the mission is one of the blighted parts of the city. Especially the area around 16th and mission, whic

by ardit33 18y ago

I respectfully disagree with it I actually can say that the mission is one of the blighted parts of the city. Especially the area around 16th and mission, which is really dirty and has a lot of crime (from shootings, drug dealing to one of the highest car thefts rates in the city). The Mission is beloved by wannabe hipsters, that think they are cool and feel like "urban pioneers" living in a semi-seedy area. Or google engineers, as the shuttles go by there, and the yupified noe valley (which is actually nice and safe). Housing used to be cheap there, but not anymore, especially considering the blighted enviroment. I love the food in some places, though. But definitely not an intellectually stimulating area.

gtani 18y ago
well, yeah, but there's a world of delta betw Mission st and Valencia. Hoff/Wiese is the gringo Mason-Dixon line, and the parking garage 16th /Hoff, across from Wells Fargo is convenient if you hafta bring your hummer.
KirinDave 18y ago
> The noe-facing side of the mission around dolores park is quite nice and fairly inexpensive. I like it, and a lot of my friends live there and like it. And I am definitely not a wannabe hipster. So please, keep your baseless opinions, but don't try to sell them off as facts around me. > I love the food in some places, though. But definitely not an intellectually stimulating area. What does this even mean? A lot of startups were born in the mission, and a lot of hackers live there. Further, there's easy access to the rest of the city, and it's much less expensive to live there than many other parts of the city. What more, exactly, do you want? With respect to the coffee, I just want to go somewhere next time that has good coffee, and in the mission that means nd or ritual. I just got back from the actual meetup, and the coffee was the worst part. Maybe we should go to the bluebottle downtown next time. It's expensive, but it has terrific coffee.
- menloparkbum 18y ago
  I like the mission, but it is hard to argue that the 16th and mission area isn't dirty and seedy. Also, the mission does indeed have the city's highest crime rate. You can verify this with everyblock or the city's own crime mapping system. I'm surprised you consider it inexpensive... I moved out of the mission because I thought I was paying far too much to live around so much noise. Somehow I ended up with a cheaper place in one of the nicest (but non-hip) neighborhoods in town. The upper mission by dolores is great but that is more like noe valley lite and is definitely expensive. Finally, Muddy Waters has some of the worst coffee in town. Ritual is probably the best choice for a mission meetup. What is "nd?" There is a coffee shop in town that I don't know about???
  - KirinDave 18y ago
    Nervous Dog. Their coffee is pretty good.

by ardit33 18y ago

gtani 18y ago

well, yeah, but there's a world of delta betw Mission st and Valencia. Hoff/Wiese is the gringo Mason-Dixon line, and the parking garage 16th /Hoff, across from Wells Fargo is convenient if you hafta bring your hummer.

KirinDave 18y ago

> The noe-facing side of the mission around dolores park is quite nice and fairly inexpensive. I like it, and a lot of my friends live there and like it. And I am definitely not a wannabe hipster. So please, keep your baseless opinions, but don't try to sell them off as facts around me. > I love the food in some places, though. But definitely not an intellectually stimulating area. What does this even mean? A lot of startups were born in the mission, and a lot of hackers live there. Further, there's easy access to the rest of the city, and it's much less expensive to live there than many other parts of the city. What more, exactly, do you want? With respect to the coffee, I just want to go somewhere next time that has good coffee, and in the mission that means nd or ritual. I just got back from the actual meetup, and the coffee was the worst part. Maybe we should go to the bluebottle downtown next time. It's expensive, but it has terrific coffee.

menloparkbum 18y ago
I like the mission, but it is hard to argue that the 16th and mission area isn't dirty and seedy. Also, the mission does indeed have the city's highest crime rate. You can verify this with everyblock or the city's own crime mapping system. I'm surprised you consider it inexpensive... I moved out of the mission because I thought I was paying far too much to live around so much noise. Somehow I ended up with a cheaper place in one of the nicest (but non-hip) neighborhoods in town. The upper mission by dolores is great but that is more like noe valley lite and is definitely expensive. Finally, Muddy Waters has some of the worst coffee in town. Ritual is probably the best choice for a mission meetup. What is "nd?" There is a coffee shop in town that I don't know about???
- KirinDave 18y ago
  Nervous Dog. Their coffee is pretty good.