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• Archelaos 5y ago
  > Who would ever imagine that their car won't start because a rabbit tested the edibility of some wiring. This is a widespread problem in Germany, not with rabbits, but with martens. It is especially dangerous when they get a taste for the brake hoses.
  • blunte 5y ago
    What are martens? When I google, I only find the UK boots ;) Surely not martins, the birds... But yes, many ground creatures (including human babies) test the edibility of virtually anything by chewing and tasting it :D.
    • hn_go_brrrrr 5y ago
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_pine_marten https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_pine_marten
      • blunte 5y ago
        Ah ha; it's sort of like a fat ferret. Cute, but devious.
        • hodgesrm 5y ago
          Pine Martens are beautiful. I've seen them several times in the US. Squirrels are terrified of them--they are apparently very efficient hunters.
          • BoxOfRain 5y ago
            Apparently they're good for red squirrel conservation, they'll hunt the invasive grey squirrels but not the long-suffering native red squirrels.
            • hodgesrm 5y ago
              Wow, I didn't know that. The first time I saw one was up in the Enchantment Lakes in Washington State. We came around a corner in the trail and heard the squirrels making a furious racket high up in the Douglas Firs above us. I remember thinking "hey, we can't be that scary, what gives?" We turned a corner around one of the Dougs and there was a big Pine Marten scrambling up the bole of the tree, chasing squirrel for lunch. Mystery solved!
        • scns 5y ago
          Never heard the name marten before, weasel is ised more often i guess. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_marten?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_marten?wprov=sfla1
          • jimnotgym 5y ago
            Yes but a European Marten of which he speaks is much bigger that a European weasel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_pine_marten https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_pine_marten
      • pvaldes 5y ago
        This is the real culprit, in fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_marten https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beech_marten Haunting people making noise at night in old houses is also a common hobby (but somebody must to run after the yummy mice).
    • jhoechtl 5y ago
      Seems like they are primarily a thing of Europe. They have a special love-relationship with cars, especially the warm engine after stopping the car during the cool and wet season. After a rain and when my car is dirty outside, I can see their footprints all over the chassis. With modern cars and their enclosing of the engine (because of sound pollution) they have a much harder time to find their way into the engine bay where they would readily gnaw at any wiring and hoses they find. There are super-sonic devices to be installed in the engine bay to shoo them.
    • bmn__ 5y ago
      In the spirit of HN's creed to encourage curiosity, I want take this opportunity to make my fellow hackers' lives easier and teach you skills for looking up information. Giving up after a Google search indicates you likely have a deficit. You can use a dictionary or encyclopedia for word definitions. I like the Oxford for its quality, and Wikipedia for its breadth. • https://lexico.com/definition/marten https://lexico.com/definition/marten • https://enwp.org/marten https://enwp.org/marten User-friendly browsers like Opera 12 and Firefox have features to turn a form or search result into a reusable template that can be triggered with a shortcut from the address bar. I habitually make use of this for looking up definitions. If you care to take the acquisition of skills to the 95th percentile and beyond, measured against the general population, then the material at Fravia's Searchlores (deliberately not linked) will do that.
      • Someone 5y ago
        In this case, you can also guess it’s an animal and search for “martens animal” Guessing that “martens” is the plural of “marten” also works fine. I think many would find that easier.
  • growt 5y ago
    Some people here also equip their cars with some device that makes a high pitched sound when parked, to scare them away. I can't say if it works with animals, but it scares me away alright.
  • lttlrck 5y ago
    Perhaps there is a way to add a bitterant to the sheathing. Im sure this has been researched, maybe around the time they switched to tasty biodegradable soy-based harnesses.
• elihu 5y ago
  My uncle had I think it was a Jeep Cherokee or something similar that had to be basically taken apart and reassembled with new wiring because for that model the manufacturer had used a new kind of wire insulation that mice apparently like to eat.
  • dreamcompiler 5y ago
    It's because several modern car manufacturers are using "natural" products for wire insulation and hoses in an effort to be green. Many are soy-based. Rodents call this stuff "delicious." Toyota was sued over the issue but the suit was dismissed. https://carbuzz.com/news/angry-toyota-owners-sue-again-over-engine-eating-rodents https://carbuzz.com/news/angry-toyota-owners-sue-again-over-...
    • lostlogin 5y ago
      In fairness to Toyota, the little arseholes will chew on anything. Metal, wood, plastic. They tunnel into beehives and have waged war on my NAS. I recommend this thing for rodents - they are insanely powerful. https://www.connovation.co.nz/products/doc200-trap-range https://www.connovation.co.nz/products/doc200-trap-range
      • dreamcompiler 5y ago
        That's quite a gizmo! Here in the desert west of the USA I use the old half-full bucket of water trick. No swiveling cylinder nor bait needed; because it's dry here the water is the bait. And no bloody mess to clean up.
      • dreamcompiler 5y ago
        But wait...your NAS? Do you keep your hard drives outdoors?
• tessierashpool 5y ago
  The yellow sac spider is attracted to the smell of gas. Mazda had to do a recall on its 6 model of sedans (twice!), covering more than 100K cars in North America, because these spiders got into these cars and built webs which blocked vents, affected fuel pressure, and could have even caused fires and explosions (although the recall seems to have prevented these worst-case scenarios).
• dehrmann 5y ago
  > location choice At least in terms of wildlife, you're not going to escape this. Stapleton was just too small and getting surrounded by city. If you're building a replacement and have access to land, it makes sense to have a lot of it. At 50+ square miles, you're going to have some wildlife interactions almost regardless of where it is.
• bradstewart 5y ago
  We had some sort of rodent, probably a rat, eat almost the entire engine wiring harness in my wife's car. In 48 hours. In the middle of Austin, TX. Took 6 months to get the thing working again.