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Good news; but it’s hard to trust Facebook at this point. - They already demonstrated user hostile approach with the mandatory FB accounts. - People might use

by thih9 5y ago

Good news; but it’s hard to trust Facebook at this point. - They already demonstrated user hostile approach with the mandatory FB accounts. - People might use sideloading/rooting to reduce tracking and ads; long term I believe FB will want to fight that.

Karunamon 5y ago
I don't think people out of the HN/tech bubble find FB accounts to be particularly hostile, and the number of people who will go through the rooting/sideloading process necessary for either of those two things is statistically nonexistent.
zapt02 5y ago
It will probably only be available for EOL devices.
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  That's ok though, it makes keeping my old Quest 1 a lot more interesting than flogging it on ebay for a hundred bucks. It's still a pretty capable device with a beautiful oled screen that's looking to be abandoned soon (now that games like resident evil are coming out that are quest 2 only).
ParanoidShroom 5y ago
Isn't this the same with Android phones and google accounts? Or iphones and icloud accounts? Like android had custom roms without google, i guess this open the path to roms without fb? I think no can disagree that this is at least a step in the right direction
- GekkePrutser 5y ago
  On an Android phone you don't have to sign in with a Google account. I do this on my OnePlus, I install apps through F-Droid and Aurora store to try to preserve some shred of privacy while not being too feature limited. In particular google push messages still work. I also kick unwanted system apps off with ADB. It's a compromise compared to a really clean ROM but it's possible. It's not possible to use a Quest without an account.
  - pedrosorio 5y ago
    > On an Android phone you don't have to sign in with a Google account. What about a Pixel phone?
    - GekkePrutser 5y ago
      No idea, I've never used one. But I don't think it would be required either. But on those there are some particularly excellent custom ROM offerings, like CalyxOS and GrapheneOS. I was thinking of buying a pixel 4a just for that purpose yesterday with the google day discount but in the end I cancelled it :) As I already have a decent phone.

by thih9 5y ago

Karunamon 5y ago

I don't think people out of the HN/tech bubble find FB accounts to be particularly hostile, and the number of people who will go through the rooting/sideloading process necessary for either of those two things is statistically nonexistent.

zapt02 5y ago

It will probably only be available for EOL devices.

GekkePrutser 5y ago
That's ok though, it makes keeping my old Quest 1 a lot more interesting than flogging it on ebay for a hundred bucks. It's still a pretty capable device with a beautiful oled screen that's looking to be abandoned soon (now that games like resident evil are coming out that are quest 2 only).

ParanoidShroom 5y ago

Isn't this the same with Android phones and google accounts? Or iphones and icloud accounts? Like android had custom roms without google, i guess this open the path to roms without fb? I think no can disagree that this is at least a step in the right direction

GekkePrutser 5y ago
On an Android phone you don't have to sign in with a Google account. I do this on my OnePlus, I install apps through F-Droid and Aurora store to try to preserve some shred of privacy while not being too feature limited. In particular google push messages still work. I also kick unwanted system apps off with ADB. It's a compromise compared to a really clean ROM but it's possible. It's not possible to use a Quest without an account.
- pedrosorio 5y ago
  > On an Android phone you don't have to sign in with a Google account. What about a Pixel phone?
  - GekkePrutser 5y ago
    No idea, I've never used one. But I don't think it would be required either. But on those there are some particularly excellent custom ROM offerings, like CalyxOS and GrapheneOS. I was thinking of buying a pixel 4a just for that purpose yesterday with the google day discount but in the end I cancelled it :) As I already have a decent phone.