> I didn't look at Taiwan but looked at European nations. US outcomes were poorer and the care was more expensive. But that's very different from the statement

> I didn't look at Taiwan but looked at European nations. US outcomes were poorer and the care was more expensive. But that's very different from the statement than "healthcare in the US is completely broken" and the suggestion that patients in the US are being short-changed when it comes to time with primary care physicians. Even if European nations have better outcomes at lower cost wouldn't inherently mean that US healthcare is "completely broken." > I don't know any other first world nation, where managing medical bills can take this much time. When I was in the US, I was a member of one of the largest HMOs. I never had any issues with medical bills. Of course, HMOs are very different than PPOs, but that too makes me question the "healthcare in the US is completely broken" sentiment. I think a less hyperbolic and more accurate statement would be "healthcare in the US is big and complex and one's experience and outcomes can vary greatly based on a wide range of factors."