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My household just cancelled our basic satellite service last week because of AppleTV+iTunes+Netflix. Our reasoning was this: Netflix lets us have the "backgrou

My household just cancelled our basic satellite service last week because of AppleTV+iTunes+Netflix. Our reasoning was this: Netflix lets us have the "background noise" programs that we don't really care about for $8/mo and it has a big enough catalog that it's worth it. We can purchase everything else from iTunes and at our rate of "new show consumption", the $60/mo is better spent being put towards iTunes purchases where it's ad-free, on demand, and able to be moved to devices. For TV shows, that's about 15-20 episodes a month purchased without affecting our previous budget. In practice, we don't watch half that many new shows so we'll be saving around $30/month and building a catalog of content that we semi-own where the value increases the longer we use it. Cable/Sat services don't build on themselves like that. Plus, the AppleTV runs at 6 watts where the satellite receiver ran at 10x that, we might even see a lower electric bill. Households that live for watching TV aren't going to be swayed that easily, but they're easily spending twice as much too.

BigZaphod 15y ago
We did this over 2 years ago. Our 2.5yo son is (so far) growing up with very little exposure to television commercials (he almost never sees them unless we are watching something on Hulu), and we consider that a good thing. Not only that, since it's all on-demand, he can choose whatever fits his mood during the time he's allowed to watch stuff. And because the media is "always available", I think he's developing a kind of acceptance that it's okay to stop watching when he's bored because the content availability is not constrained to "now." In other words, it's far easier for him to leave a show midway when it's time for bed or something because he knows he can just pick it up later and continue some other day. This is a decidedly different experience than growing up with scheduled TV pre-DVR where every minute was precious and missing anything was a "big deal."
- evilduck 15y ago
  Our 7 month old son also played a part in the decision. I'd rather him develop a habit of filling the majority of his idle time with less mentally and physically passive activities than television. Not that he can't ever watch TV, but I hope that we can find something else more entertaining together.
msluyter 15y ago
My girlfriend and I went AppleTV + Netflix about a year ago, and we haven't missed cable at all (I don't watch sports). The Netflix catalog is sub-optimal and lacking some important content (HBO shows like The Wire, for example) but it's also great if you have certain niche interests and like to watch an entire TV series (Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the X-Files, for example. And now Star Trek!). We also tend to spend less overall time watching TV. There's something about the ease and pull of flipping cable channels that keeps you watching, whereas with Netflix, you have to actively commit to another episode/movie. That requires a certain cognitive effort and in most cases, we'll find that after one or two 30 minute (well, more like 22 minute) episodes, we're done for the evening.
- evilduck 15y ago
  Our decision was pretty multifacted (see my other reply), but we also switched so we can also evaluate how we value what we watch, and force upon ourselves some changes of habit. It's a little bit of a lifestyle experiment. When we blindly spent $60 a month and got unrestricted time access to channels, we ended up not thinking about how that money is spent entertaining us and how we valued what we watched. We weren't directly allocating money towards what we valued. The result was that the TV was always on, we'd be leaving on whatever came on next even if it was of little interest, turning on crap shows as background noise because "nothing else is on", turning it on in the bedroom and staying up later than necessary just because there was something to watch, putting off doing the dishes or housework until a commercial break, not watching it meant we were wasting the subscription cost, etc, etc. Not that I'm morally against what's on TV, I just think the passive nature of watching TV is a bad default way of life, overall it was just a toxic influence on our behavior. By having to explicitly select and buy programming, we see where the time and money is spent and what we really value. The cost wasn't totally a primary factor; we're not hard up for the extra $30 a month saved or whatever but it's something we identified as wasteful spending for the derived entertainment value. We play a lot more background music in the house now to replace the TV noise, and I've also finished two additional books beyond my previous normal amount of reading since dropping satellite service (it was hard to focus and read in the other rooms when a TV was blaring). Edit: just a note, we actually switched to this set of behaviors over a month ago and started down this path a few weeks before that, but finally cancelled the satellite subscription last week. It was a transition to change that many behaviors.

BigZaphod 15y ago

We did this over 2 years ago. Our 2.5yo son is (so far) growing up with very little exposure to television commercials (he almost never sees them unless we are watching something on Hulu), and we consider that a good thing. Not only that, since it's all on-demand, he can choose whatever fits his mood during the time he's allowed to watch stuff. And because the media is "always available", I think he's developing a kind of acceptance that it's okay to stop watching when he's bored because the content availability is not constrained to "now." In other words, it's far easier for him to leave a show midway when it's time for bed or something because he knows he can just pick it up later and continue some other day. This is a decidedly different experience than growing up with scheduled TV pre-DVR where every minute was precious and missing anything was a "big deal."

evilduck 15y ago
Our 7 month old son also played a part in the decision. I'd rather him develop a habit of filling the majority of his idle time with less mentally and physically passive activities than television. Not that he can't ever watch TV, but I hope that we can find something else more entertaining together.

msluyter 15y ago

My girlfriend and I went AppleTV + Netflix about a year ago, and we haven't missed cable at all (I don't watch sports). The Netflix catalog is sub-optimal and lacking some important content (HBO shows like The Wire, for example) but it's also great if you have certain niche interests and like to watch an entire TV series (Buffy the Vampire Slayer or the X-Files, for example. And now Star Trek!). We also tend to spend less overall time watching TV. There's something about the ease and pull of flipping cable channels that keeps you watching, whereas with Netflix, you have to actively commit to another episode/movie. That requires a certain cognitive effort and in most cases, we'll find that after one or two 30 minute (well, more like 22 minute) episodes, we're done for the evening.

evilduck 15y ago
Our decision was pretty multifacted (see my other reply), but we also switched so we can also evaluate how we value what we watch, and force upon ourselves some changes of habit. It's a little bit of a lifestyle experiment. When we blindly spent $60 a month and got unrestricted time access to channels, we ended up not thinking about how that money is spent entertaining us and how we valued what we watched. We weren't directly allocating money towards what we valued. The result was that the TV was always on, we'd be leaving on whatever came on next even if it was of little interest, turning on crap shows as background noise because "nothing else is on", turning it on in the bedroom and staying up later than necessary just because there was something to watch, putting off doing the dishes or housework until a commercial break, not watching it meant we were wasting the subscription cost, etc, etc. Not that I'm morally against what's on TV, I just think the passive nature of watching TV is a bad default way of life, overall it was just a toxic influence on our behavior. By having to explicitly select and buy programming, we see where the time and money is spent and what we really value. The cost wasn't totally a primary factor; we're not hard up for the extra $30 a month saved or whatever but it's something we identified as wasteful spending for the derived entertainment value. We play a lot more background music in the house now to replace the TV noise, and I've also finished two additional books beyond my previous normal amount of reading since dropping satellite service (it was hard to focus and read in the other rooms when a TV was blaring). Edit: just a note, we actually switched to this set of behaviors over a month ago and started down this path a few weeks before that, but finally cancelled the satellite subscription last week. It was a transition to change that many behaviors.