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I just wish designers were more familiar with the SVG format and its caveats. Several times I've wanted to do some quick change in an SVG that was exported from

by lopis 5y ago

I just wish designers were more familiar with the SVG format and its caveats. Several times I've wanted to do some quick change in an SVG that was exported from Adobe Whatever and Inkscape was incapable of rendering it correctly, if at all. I'm pretty sure Adobe has been pushing the boundaries of SVG in the last years, while other tools stick to the basics.

dccoolgai 5y ago
By "pushing the boundaries" do you mean "violating SVG standards" or is it the other editors who aren't keeping up with SVG2.0 etc?
- prox 5y ago
  If Adobe changes the spec, they can, simply by being the market leader (bit like Chrome is) Not nice, but there you have it. It would be great if there was an Adobe SVG format in those cases perhaps.
  - wombatmobile 5y ago
    Adobe is a W3C member and played a lead role in drafting the 1.0 spec, which was edited by Adobe’s Jon Ferrailo. If you are going to even hint that an Adobe product produces non-compliant SVG, please detail your claim so others can assess it. To not do so would be the first step towards a rumour, and might invite FUD that might devalue SVG’s status as an open standard supported enthusiastically in web and vector graphics ecosystems. We don’t want that, do we?
    - baybal2 5y ago
      And Adobe was the one to sink the SVG 1.2... because of Inkscape
      - wombatmobile 5y ago
        I'm not familiar with what you are referring to. Could you point me towards more information or discussion?
- duped 5y ago
  The last I heard there wasn't a single rendering engine that passes the entire W3C test suite, let alone any two renderers that have the same coverage. I'm not sure if that is still the case. In my experience using SVG for portability is a minefield.
  - jatone 5y ago
    yup. resvg is the best atm i think.
m_st 5y ago
I also had some issues with SVG exports from Inkscape not being drawn correctly when used as toolbar icons for Windows apps. The solution was Affinity Designer. Too bad, but at least it's an easy purchase rather than a subscription.
- angst_ridden 5y ago
  Affinity Designer is a great tool for those of us willing to use commercial/non-free software (and who hate Adobe). It's relatively inexpensive, and the company tries very hard to make users happy. I've used it for numerous projects requiring vector output, ranging from bespoke posters to feeding the laser cutter. It will output a lot of formats, but in combination with Inkscape, you can convert the output to pretty much anything you would need.
- mytdi 5y ago
  Inkscape saves with two different options: "Inkscape SVG" and "Plain SVG", did you try both?
  - ygra 5y ago
    They shouldn't really matter, except for file size. They won't magically use different SVG markup. All Plain SVG does is strip away Inkscape's XML namespaces and custom attributes/elements. There's a fair number of SVG features that are poorly-supported, broken or with a number of gotchas in various renderers, however and you're kinda expected to work around those yourself. For icons and similar you can often go back to the most basic things: Filled paths with solid colors and gradients. That should render pretty much everywhere where there's at least some SVG support.
doctormon 5y ago
This is the opposite of reality for SVG. Inkscape is the only tool pushing the SVG standard forward right now. Mesh gradients, SVG2.0 text flow, and much more besides. None of it supported by Adobe, Chrome, Firefox or librsvg. Only found in Inkscape and it's not like Inkscape broke the standards, we went to the w3c and got involved in setting the spec and then implemented it. If you have broken svg files, report them to https://inkscape.org/report https://inkscape.org/report

by lopis 5y ago

dccoolgai 5y ago

By "pushing the boundaries" do you mean "violating SVG standards" or is it the other editors who aren't keeping up with SVG2.0 etc?

prox 5y ago
If Adobe changes the spec, they can, simply by being the market leader (bit like Chrome is) Not nice, but there you have it. It would be great if there was an Adobe SVG format in those cases perhaps.
- wombatmobile 5y ago
  Adobe is a W3C member and played a lead role in drafting the 1.0 spec, which was edited by Adobe’s Jon Ferrailo. If you are going to even hint that an Adobe product produces non-compliant SVG, please detail your claim so others can assess it. To not do so would be the first step towards a rumour, and might invite FUD that might devalue SVG’s status as an open standard supported enthusiastically in web and vector graphics ecosystems. We don’t want that, do we?
  - baybal2 5y ago
    And Adobe was the one to sink the SVG 1.2... because of Inkscape
    - wombatmobile 5y ago
      I'm not familiar with what you are referring to. Could you point me towards more information or discussion?
duped 5y ago
The last I heard there wasn't a single rendering engine that passes the entire W3C test suite, let alone any two renderers that have the same coverage. I'm not sure if that is still the case. In my experience using SVG for portability is a minefield.
- jatone 5y ago
  yup. resvg is the best atm i think.

m_st 5y ago

I also had some issues with SVG exports from Inkscape not being drawn correctly when used as toolbar icons for Windows apps. The solution was Affinity Designer. Too bad, but at least it's an easy purchase rather than a subscription.

angst_ridden 5y ago
Affinity Designer is a great tool for those of us willing to use commercial/non-free software (and who hate Adobe). It's relatively inexpensive, and the company tries very hard to make users happy. I've used it for numerous projects requiring vector output, ranging from bespoke posters to feeding the laser cutter. It will output a lot of formats, but in combination with Inkscape, you can convert the output to pretty much anything you would need.
mytdi 5y ago
Inkscape saves with two different options: "Inkscape SVG" and "Plain SVG", did you try both?
- ygra 5y ago
  They shouldn't really matter, except for file size. They won't magically use different SVG markup. All Plain SVG does is strip away Inkscape's XML namespaces and custom attributes/elements. There's a fair number of SVG features that are poorly-supported, broken or with a number of gotchas in various renderers, however and you're kinda expected to work around those yourself. For icons and similar you can often go back to the most basic things: Filled paths with solid colors and gradients. That should render pretty much everywhere where there's at least some SVG support.

doctormon 5y ago

This is the opposite of reality for SVG. Inkscape is the only tool pushing the SVG standard forward right now. Mesh gradients, SVG2.0 text flow, and much more besides. None of it supported by Adobe, Chrome, Firefox or librsvg. Only found in Inkscape and it's not like Inkscape broke the standards, we went to the w3c and got involved in setting the spec and then implemented it. If you have broken svg files, report them to https://inkscape.org/report https://inkscape.org/report