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Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs. Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer lon

Neither Slack nor any of the Slack clones can figure the most simple of things: tabs. Instead they all insist on having just one window with a 10-kilometer long list of rooms/chats/channels on the left that you have to switch between in a single window. This becomes especially frustrating when you have several active chats going on at the same time, or when you want to retain some info on the screen while answering in a separate chat/channel.

jeroenhd 5y ago
In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.
- dmitriid 5y ago
  You still need to go through the whole process of creating a Space even if it's just some place in a chat that you want open while you're having a conversation in another chat. You still have to use the same window to switch between them. These are not tabs.
  - mxuribe 5y ago
    If i read things properly, the spaces concept is not specific to the Element client (available per the underlying matrix protocol)...so technically, any other client could in fact apply a different UI/UX approach to displaying the spaces, such as tabs...again, if i'm understanding things accurately. So, maybe other clients could implement something more to your liking (such as tabs)??
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      This will still create a separate space that will appear in our clients, that needs the privacy settings etc.
- howenterprisey 5y ago
  By "tabs", the person to which you replied meant the ability to view multiple chats at the same time, I think.
  - bhl 5y ago
    So sort of a user interface like TweetDeck where you can horizontally scroll between multiple feeds?
    - dmitriid 5y ago
      This would also work.
filleokus 5y ago
I think MS Teams is worst about this, because they have so much functionality crammed in the app. I constantly find myself switching between the Calendar view / channel view when planning a meeting, or between channels when referencing a PDF shared in the "Files" section of a different channel. Super annoying.
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  Yes - it's the worst here, because they're trying to surface so many products in Teams for some reason.
callahad 5y ago
This may be heretical but... I just use Element in my browser. If I need another tab, I open another tab. Did the same thing when I worked at a company that used Slack.
ivank 5y ago
https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ is a client with tabs for Slack and Discord. Unfortunately it does not provide all the functionality of the web interfaces, though.
- nyanpasu64 5y ago
  Also technically you can get banned from Discord for using third-party clients. Some people have used it and gotten away, some people weren't so lucky.
nerdponx 5y ago
It's not just tabs. I am in so many damn Discord servers and Matrix rooms that I want to be able to view, filter, sort, and modify them in a table. I want to be able to do bulk operations. I want to be able to tag them and group them into hierarchies, with a UI that promotes doing such things, rather than obstructs.
justshowpost 5y ago
Someone please make a Matrix client that looks like VSCode. The editor of the current file is the current opened room, and tabs to switch between rooms. The explorer shows rooms as files and spaces as folders that can be expanded/collapsed. Also support for keyboard shortcuts like CMD+P to quickly open a room.

jeroenhd 5y ago

In Element (on desktop at least) spaces act like tabs to order the massive vertical list of chats. On mobile these spaces are hidden in the slide-in menu.

dmitriid 5y ago
You still need to go through the whole process of creating a Space even if it's just some place in a chat that you want open while you're having a conversation in another chat. You still have to use the same window to switch between them. These are not tabs.
- mxuribe 5y ago
  If i read things properly, the spaces concept is not specific to the Element client (available per the underlying matrix protocol)...so technically, any other client could in fact apply a different UI/UX approach to displaying the spaces, such as tabs...again, if i'm understanding things accurately. So, maybe other clients could implement something more to your liking (such as tabs)??
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    This will still create a separate space that will appear in our clients, that needs the privacy settings etc.
howenterprisey 5y ago
By "tabs", the person to which you replied meant the ability to view multiple chats at the same time, I think.
- bhl 5y ago
  So sort of a user interface like TweetDeck where you can horizontally scroll between multiple feeds?
  - dmitriid 5y ago
    This would also work.

filleokus 5y ago

I think MS Teams is worst about this, because they have so much functionality crammed in the app. I constantly find myself switching between the Calendar view / channel view when planning a meeting, or between channels when referencing a PDF shared in the "Files" section of a different channel. Super annoying.

robertlagrant 5y ago
Yes - it's the worst here, because they're trying to surface so many products in Teams for some reason.

callahad 5y ago

This may be heretical but... I just use Element in my browser. If I need another tab, I open another tab. Did the same thing when I worked at a company that used Slack.

ivank 5y ago

https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ https://cancel.fm/ripcord/ is a client with tabs for Slack and Discord. Unfortunately it does not provide all the functionality of the web interfaces, though.

nyanpasu64 5y ago
Also technically you can get banned from Discord for using third-party clients. Some people have used it and gotten away, some people weren't so lucky.

nerdponx 5y ago

It's not just tabs. I am in so many damn Discord servers and Matrix rooms that I want to be able to view, filter, sort, and modify them in a table. I want to be able to do bulk operations. I want to be able to tag them and group them into hierarchies, with a UI that promotes doing such things, rather than obstructs.

justshowpost 5y ago

Someone please make a Matrix client that looks like VSCode. The editor of the current file is the current opened room, and tabs to switch between rooms. The explorer shows rooms as files and spaces as folders that can be expanded/collapsed. Also support for keyboard shortcuts like CMD+P to quickly open a room.