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Can you give some examples what you changed? I’m very curious because I’ve never heard about it and can’t imagine what people would do with it

RheingoldRiver 5y ago
Sure! I use a single toolbar at the top that contains back/forward, refresh/stop, menu dropdowns (which are all hidden except for History/Bookmarks/Tools), the address bar, my bookmarks toolbar buttons, and all addon buttons. Below that is my tab toolbar. This setup is accomplished by CSS with a bunch of position:absolute; and negative margins and stuff, because it's impossible to truly have all of these things in the same toolbar physically. Every single time they change stuff, it gets screwed up. Prior to their rewrite of everything in version fifty-whatever, I could just drag-and-drop all this stuff into a single toolbar, but when they decided they knew better than me how I want my browser to look it all got 100x harder to get the layout I want. In addition to this single-toolbar layout I have some easy stuff like highlighting the background color of "View background image" and "Copy link location" and I think 2-3 other things in the context menu a dark purple so that I misclick less often (this particular change is actually amazing and I highly recommend it!). And I make the URL dropdown suggestions constrained to the width of the URL bar, not 100%, because I find the context switching of hiding the entire webpage too jarring when they're that wide. And I also hide a bunch of random buttons here and there that I find useless; I'm not sure what they are at this point because they've been hidden for so long... Oh! And my highlight color (in URL bar, etc) is bright magenta (otherwise my theme is dark mode). Just because I like it. :) I use that in Sublimetext too, though I don't do that in every text editor/IDE.
- ohgodplsno 5y ago
  Don't reverse responsibilities. _You_ made the choice of changing this CSS. _You_ fucked the layout up when the upgrade comes in.
  - pessimizer 5y ago
    From the description, it looks like they unfucked the layout, then firefox refucked it. A decade ago it was very easy to make Firefox look like you wanted, even without extensions (if you weren't opinionated about aesthetics, just position and functionality.) Every UI change since Chrome was released has been a regression, and more obnoxiously, each change has been locked in with user adjustment actively prevented or made prohibitively difficult, even for programmers. They could at least offer a consistent interface to change the UI. Instead they demand the flexibility to make UI changes without having to maintain an interface, while using that flexibility to claw back more and more flexibility from their users.

RheingoldRiver 5y ago

Sure! I use a single toolbar at the top that contains back/forward, refresh/stop, menu dropdowns (which are all hidden except for History/Bookmarks/Tools), the address bar, my bookmarks toolbar buttons, and all addon buttons. Below that is my tab toolbar. This setup is accomplished by CSS with a bunch of position:absolute; and negative margins and stuff, because it's impossible to truly have all of these things in the same toolbar physically. Every single time they change stuff, it gets screwed up. Prior to their rewrite of everything in version fifty-whatever, I could just drag-and-drop all this stuff into a single toolbar, but when they decided they knew better than me how I want my browser to look it all got 100x harder to get the layout I want. In addition to this single-toolbar layout I have some easy stuff like highlighting the background color of "View background image" and "Copy link location" and I think 2-3 other things in the context menu a dark purple so that I misclick less often (this particular change is actually amazing and I highly recommend it!). And I make the URL dropdown suggestions constrained to the width of the URL bar, not 100%, because I find the context switching of hiding the entire webpage too jarring when they're that wide. And I also hide a bunch of random buttons here and there that I find useless; I'm not sure what they are at this point because they've been hidden for so long... Oh! And my highlight color (in URL bar, etc) is bright magenta (otherwise my theme is dark mode). Just because I like it. :) I use that in Sublimetext too, though I don't do that in every text editor/IDE.

ohgodplsno 5y ago
Don't reverse responsibilities. _You_ made the choice of changing this CSS. _You_ fucked the layout up when the upgrade comes in.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  From the description, it looks like they unfucked the layout, then firefox refucked it. A decade ago it was very easy to make Firefox look like you wanted, even without extensions (if you weren't opinionated about aesthetics, just position and functionality.) Every UI change since Chrome was released has been a regression, and more obnoxiously, each change has been locked in with user adjustment actively prevented or made prohibitively difficult, even for programmers. They could at least offer a consistent interface to change the UI. Instead they demand the flexibility to make UI changes without having to maintain an interface, while using that flexibility to claw back more and more flexibility from their users.