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I agree that Western companies operating in China are chasing a phantom carrot that the CCP will never allow them to catch, and that reciprocity, or "equalizati
by SkyMarshal 5y ago
I agree that Western companies operating in China are chasing a phantom carrot that the CCP will never allow them to catch, and that reciprocity, or "equalization" as I think of it, is necessary in trade.
If Western companies can only operate in China via 50/50 partnership and technology transfer requirements, then the same should apply to Chinese companies in the West.
If Western social media companies are banned in China, then Chinese social media companies should have whatever restrictions are constitutionally possible in the West, with a caveat [1].
Etc.
That said, I think Western governments need to realize that their Chinese citizens are going to be put under pressure by the CCP as you said, but to presume innocence and err on the side of protecting them.
The CCP will use both carrot and stick to coerce ethnic Chinese back to China, or to enlist them in espionage operations. Western governments need to develop strategies to counter that, to ensure their Chinese citizens remain safe and welcomed in their adopted homelands, and that they can safely reject CCP coercion and be protected by their adopted homelands' governments [2].
Some spies and agents will of course slip through the cracks, but Western governments can deal with those as they happen. Better to protect the majority of innocent Chinese who emigrated to the West for a better life, than to implicitly criminalize them all. The latter would play right into the CCP's hands.
[1]: The 1st Ammendment may make banning social media companies impossible. It's also possible that allowing Chinese social media companies in the West is still a net gain for spreading the ideals of free speech and anti-censorship.
[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28333148 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28333148
- jen20 5y ago> The 1st Ammendment may make banning social media companies impossible. It's also possible that allowing Chinese social media companies in the West The "west" does not consist solely of the USA. Not even most of North America has first amendment protections, and Europe most certainly does not. Further it's not obvious that "freedom of speech" is even a defence if the US government has decided you shouldn't exist - look at Mega or The Pirate Bay for examples to the contrary.
- SkyMarshal 5y ago> Not even most of North America has first amendment protections, and Europe most certainly does not. Freedom of Expression and Assembly are Article 11 and 12 of the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, which has had legal force since 2009: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12012P/TXT https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12... > look at Mega or The Pirate Bay for examples to the contrary. I personally don't consider those to be examples 1st Amendment violations. It's almost all people claiming an entitlement to free entertainment, nothing more. Copyright law may be broken in the digital age, and manipulated by private interests at the expense of the public domain, and deserve reform, or maybe even civil disobedience. But nothing about that situation prevents anyone from making and posting media critiquing the government, or of generating political support for reform, and running on a platform promising to enact that reform. That's what the 1st Amendment is designed to protect above all.