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First major issue is that you can’t get your kids to school if there aren’t enough teachers willing to teach there. Whether it’s even worth paying a teacher to

First major issue is that you can’t get your kids to school if there aren’t enough teachers willing to teach there. Whether it’s even worth paying a teacher to be there depends on the aggregate of the decisions of other parents as well. We’ve decided on a very standardized way of doing public schooling, and that goes beyond just what is taught. But the bigger issue is that you’re talking almost entirely about decisions that only have effects with society wide adoption. Me wearing a mask doesn’t help, everyone wearing a mask does. Me getting vaccinated gives me 70% protection, everyone getting vaccinated creates herd immunity. There are classes of decision that only have an effect if almost everyone in society has to make them, you can’t just say “you do what you want and I do what I want” and expect that to make any sense when we are talking about that kind of decision. Which isn’t to say we should force everyone to do things like get vaccinated. Arguing that choice and liberty are more important than safety is reasonable (as is arguing that the system is too incompetent to be trusted with that sort of power). But you have to argue for that specifically, not say “let me do what you want and I’ll do what I want” as if that’s a valid way to handle this type of situation. When we’re talking about things that only help if everyone does them, the choice is to enforce it or accept we won’t get the benefits.

hirako2000 5y ago
But your first assumption is incorrect I think. Yes it is a major issue for schooling kids of not enough teachers accept to go teach. But the reality is that teachers cannot teach. The school shuts because of pressure or coercion. Then there is no teacher. And if the school reopens, good chances teachers are for the most part not willing to get on with it immediately. And the bureaucratic chaos continues. People know better what is right. That includes school adminostrators. Let them do. And let parents do. And let teachers do. We can apply this to most sectors. Why? Because that's how things have been _working_. Even public administrations figure out what works. They get pressured by the actors in their administration and consumer of their services. There are issues of course, but mandating prevention measures top down entirely breaks the natural dynamic that keep things somewhat afloat. Of course there is some coordination taking place, but right now the debate is about what is right for people and what isn't right. Each side claiming they know better, each idea succeeding the previous one after it failed and its consequences known. We don't need to enforce teachers to come to work. They can stay home or find another job and seek other streams of revenue. It always worked that way, we haven't suddenly became slaves or robots to systems where we got to collectively agree where to place them. It has never worked that way, even when it did, aside the misery it generated it always eventually collapsed.

hirako2000 5y ago

But your first assumption is incorrect I think. Yes it is a major issue for schooling kids of not enough teachers accept to go teach. But the reality is that teachers cannot teach. The school shuts because of pressure or coercion. Then there is no teacher. And if the school reopens, good chances teachers are for the most part not willing to get on with it immediately. And the bureaucratic chaos continues. People know better what is right. That includes school adminostrators. Let them do. And let parents do. And let teachers do. We can apply this to most sectors. Why? Because that's how things have been _working_. Even public administrations figure out what works. They get pressured by the actors in their administration and consumer of their services. There are issues of course, but mandating prevention measures top down entirely breaks the natural dynamic that keep things somewhat afloat. Of course there is some coordination taking place, but right now the debate is about what is right for people and what isn't right. Each side claiming they know better, each idea succeeding the previous one after it failed and its consequences known. We don't need to enforce teachers to come to work. They can stay home or find another job and seek other streams of revenue. It always worked that way, we haven't suddenly became slaves or robots to systems where we got to collectively agree where to place them. It has never worked that way, even when it did, aside the misery it generated it always eventually collapsed.