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Note: requires iOS 14. I would have liked to give it a try, and pay if it proves superior to Apple's "Music Memos", but I can't, as I run an iPhone 6 / iOS 12 t

Note: requires iOS 14. I would have liked to give it a try, and pay if it proves superior to Apple's "Music Memos", but I can't, as I run an iPhone 6 / iOS 12 that is still very functional and security-patched by Apple (iOS 12.5.5 shipped last week). As a developer, I can for sure understand you're limiting to the "latest and greatest" for API usage simplicity, but I urge you to reconsider requiring iOS 14. Two arguments for you to consider, one ethical, and one business: 1. I've met plenty of people sensitive ecologically and willing to keep their phone as long as possible. As a result, they run old iOSes. 2. Musicians are rarely making millions, and thus cautious with tech spending. By restricting to iOS 14, you're leaving money on the table.

earthnail 5y ago
Thank you very much for your feedback. I very much understand where you're coming from, and I think you make a very good point outlining that in particular musicians are usually quite short on cash and can't afford the latest and greatest iPhone. We need at least iOS 14 for the stereo recording functionality. Even then, not all devices that support iOS 14 also support stereo recording, and we don't even offer the in-app purchase option on those devices that don't support it. We also make heavy use of CoreML, for which we require at least iOS 13. So in theory, we could go one version lower, but since all devices that support iOS 13 also support 14 and 15, we will likely increase the minimum version to iOS 15 once it has reached significant adoption, because of the improvements to CoreML iOS 15 ships with. I know it's not the answer you wanted. I hope you understand that this choice wasn't made out of ignorance, but simply due to hard technical limitations.
- ronjouch 5y ago
  Okay, thanks for the precise reply; makes sense for CoreML. Bookmarking your site, will give your app a try when my trusty iPhone 6 breaks and I get a newer one. Take care.
- tigeba 5y ago
  I write and record music and this seems pretty useful as a tool for songwriting. I can think of some cases where the notes and photo notes for gear and the markers are useful. The instrument detection is I guess neat, but I can tell what I'm playing by listening. Stereo is also not really particularly appealing or interesting, especially if it has weird ML processing on it. One pain point I frequently hit when doing actual recording is saving settings from external analog devices if I want to recall them in a future session via notes. This seems like this could be close to covering this scenario as well. Congrats on launching.

earthnail 5y ago

Thank you very much for your feedback. I very much understand where you're coming from, and I think you make a very good point outlining that in particular musicians are usually quite short on cash and can't afford the latest and greatest iPhone. We need at least iOS 14 for the stereo recording functionality. Even then, not all devices that support iOS 14 also support stereo recording, and we don't even offer the in-app purchase option on those devices that don't support it. We also make heavy use of CoreML, for which we require at least iOS 13. So in theory, we could go one version lower, but since all devices that support iOS 13 also support 14 and 15, we will likely increase the minimum version to iOS 15 once it has reached significant adoption, because of the improvements to CoreML iOS 15 ships with. I know it's not the answer you wanted. I hope you understand that this choice wasn't made out of ignorance, but simply due to hard technical limitations.

ronjouch 5y ago
Okay, thanks for the precise reply; makes sense for CoreML. Bookmarking your site, will give your app a try when my trusty iPhone 6 breaks and I get a newer one. Take care.
tigeba 5y ago
I write and record music and this seems pretty useful as a tool for songwriting. I can think of some cases where the notes and photo notes for gear and the markers are useful. The instrument detection is I guess neat, but I can tell what I'm playing by listening. Stereo is also not really particularly appealing or interesting, especially if it has weird ML processing on it. One pain point I frequently hit when doing actual recording is saving settings from external analog devices if I want to recall them in a future session via notes. This seems like this could be close to covering this scenario as well. Congrats on launching.