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I feel there was a very strong brand of thinking in this country, particularly among the gung-ho pro-lockdown (mostly) liberal wing of society, that distance ed

I feel there was a very strong brand of thinking in this country, particularly among the gung-ho pro-lockdown (mostly) liberal wing of society, that distance education wouldn't harm children's development at all, or at least that the benefits of lockdown would outweigh the drawbacks. No studies done on the matter, and any disagreement to the contrary of this opinion was treated the same as saying END ALL LOCKDOWNS. Sad to see the consequences of this will mostly be laid upon the children and mostly the poor.

encryptluks2 5y ago
Pretty sure at this point any disagreement automatically means you're a right-wing anti-vaccine protester who it is now socially acceptable to wish death upon and cough on hoping they get COVID-19. At least that is the impression I get from r/Portland and r/VancouverWA where these new left-wing terrorist communities are being bred.
- bosswipe 5y ago
  Wow. As a more left-wing person I've been shadow banned on HN for much less than this. HN used to be one of the few places where intelligent debate accros political spectrum was allowed. If you look at this whole comment thread all you see is one POV.
  - eli_gottlieb 5y ago
    I'm quite left-wing myself (check out my downvoted comments against capitalism, lol), but it's a simple fact that local civil-society has combined with local activism in much of the developed world to generate a nasty sequel to 60s-70s-style ultraleftism. Are they some second coming of Stalin? Hell no, but are they going to go to every single planning board meeting, run for school board, and screech nasty names at you when you disagree with their most obviously self-serving, power-grabbing hot-takes? Oh yeah, they've been doing that at least five years now, if not longer.
  - kongin 5y ago
    The irony burns: people saying that anti-anti-vaxxers are a cult hell bent on controlling the lives of everyone regardless of what health advice is. Top comment complaining they haven't been banned fast enough for that heresy.
spookthesunset 5y ago
Yup. In some cities you can’t even erect a cluster of cell antennas on a roof without a public design review and here we are making the largest public policy decisions of our lifetime with absolutely no involvement from the public. In fact many people will scream at you for “not listening to the experts” if you bring this up. The bullying, censorship, gaslighting, and straight up authoritarianism over the last year and a half has been unreal.

encryptluks2 5y ago

Pretty sure at this point any disagreement automatically means you're a right-wing anti-vaccine protester who it is now socially acceptable to wish death upon and cough on hoping they get COVID-19. At least that is the impression I get from r/Portland and r/VancouverWA where these new left-wing terrorist communities are being bred.

bosswipe 5y ago
Wow. As a more left-wing person I've been shadow banned on HN for much less than this. HN used to be one of the few places where intelligent debate accros political spectrum was allowed. If you look at this whole comment thread all you see is one POV.
- eli_gottlieb 5y ago
  I'm quite left-wing myself (check out my downvoted comments against capitalism, lol), but it's a simple fact that local civil-society has combined with local activism in much of the developed world to generate a nasty sequel to 60s-70s-style ultraleftism. Are they some second coming of Stalin? Hell no, but are they going to go to every single planning board meeting, run for school board, and screech nasty names at you when you disagree with their most obviously self-serving, power-grabbing hot-takes? Oh yeah, they've been doing that at least five years now, if not longer.
- kongin 5y ago
  The irony burns: people saying that anti-anti-vaxxers are a cult hell bent on controlling the lives of everyone regardless of what health advice is. Top comment complaining they haven't been banned fast enough for that heresy.

spookthesunset 5y ago

Yup. In some cities you can’t even erect a cluster of cell antennas on a roof without a public design review and here we are making the largest public policy decisions of our lifetime with absolutely no involvement from the public. In fact many people will scream at you for “not listening to the experts” if you bring this up. The bullying, censorship, gaslighting, and straight up authoritarianism over the last year and a half has been unreal.