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And the use of cat on a single file..

by lambic 5y ago

netcraft 5y ago
I don't understand your comment - could you expand on it?
- ComputerGuru 5y ago
  cat just regurgitates the contents of the file, but the resulting piped fd is non-seekable. Since almost every command that can operate on a file from stdin can also operate on the file by name/path, at best this is just a needless invocation of a process (i.e. `tv foo.csv` should have been used instead of `cat foo.csv | tv`) - if the app in question can't handle paths, then you can have the shell pipe the file into it instead (e.g. `tv < foo.csv`). At worst, the recipient program would need to buffer the entire contents of the input if it needs to perform non-sequential operations on the source data - this is the case with things like `tac` that need to seek to the end of the input (see https://github.com/neosmart/tac https://github.com/neosmart/tac for how `cat foo | tac` requires buffering but both `tac foo` and even `tac < foo` don't).
  - netcraft 5y ago
    thank you! I knew some of that but learned a lot too.
    - mthoms 5y ago
      Google the phrase "useless use of cat". To some, it's a faux-pas. Personally, I like the aesthetics of cat for my own scripts. It follows the "pipe flowing" idiom better. There are performance reasons why "useless cat" should be avoided though. So avoid it where performance is important (or when some other hardcore CLI jockey is going to see your code :))
      - hibbelig 5y ago
        I understand that people say you can replace foo < bar with <bar foo but I've never been able to get myself to do this.
      - bofh23 5y ago
        Avoiding “useless cat” on the command line is premature optimization. Sure, don’t do it in a script that is invoked a lot but it shouldn’t be a concern when prototyping a filter pipeline. $ cat foo | head -4 b a c b $ cat foo | head -4 | sort a b b c $ cat foo | head -4 | sort | uniq -c 1 a 2 b 1 c $ cat foo | head -4 | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -1 2 b
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  - flusteredBias 5y ago
    Love the idea! The issue is already open. I will merge a PR before the next release. https://github.com/alexhallam/tv/issues/49 https://github.com/alexhallam/tv/issues/49
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And the use of cat on a single file..

by lambic 5y ago

And the use of cat on a single file..

netcraft 5y ago

I don't understand your comment - could you expand on it?

ComputerGuru 5y ago
cat just regurgitates the contents of the file, but the resulting piped fd is non-seekable. Since almost every command that can operate on a file from stdin can also operate on the file by name/path, at best this is just a needless invocation of a process (i.e. `tv foo.csv` should have been used instead of `cat foo.csv | tv`) - if the app in question can't handle paths, then you can have the shell pipe the file into it instead (e.g. `tv < foo.csv`). At worst, the recipient program would need to buffer the entire contents of the input if it needs to perform non-sequential operations on the source data - this is the case with things like `tac` that need to seek to the end of the input (see https://github.com/neosmart/tac https://github.com/neosmart/tac for how `cat foo | tac` requires buffering but both `tac foo` and even `tac < foo` don't).
- netcraft 5y ago
  thank you! I knew some of that but learned a lot too.
  - mthoms 5y ago
    Google the phrase "useless use of cat". To some, it's a faux-pas. Personally, I like the aesthetics of cat for my own scripts. It follows the "pipe flowing" idiom better. There are performance reasons why "useless cat" should be avoided though. So avoid it where performance is important (or when some other hardcore CLI jockey is going to see your code :))
    - hibbelig 5y ago
      I understand that people say you can replace foo < bar with <bar foo but I've never been able to get myself to do this.
    - bofh23 5y ago
      Avoiding “useless cat” on the command line is premature optimization. Sure, don’t do it in a script that is invoked a lot but it shouldn’t be a concern when prototyping a filter pipeline. $ cat foo | head -4 b a c b $ cat foo | head -4 | sort a b b c $ cat foo | head -4 | sort | uniq -c 1 a 2 b 1 c $ cat foo | head -4 | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -1 2 b
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- flusteredBias 5y ago
  Love the idea! The issue is already open. I will merge a PR before the next release. https://github.com/alexhallam/tv/issues/49 https://github.com/alexhallam/tv/issues/49
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