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There are some factual arguments to be made here and it seems like they're wading into a gray area. For example, it's public knowledge that the electronic votin

There are some factual arguments to be made here and it seems like they're wading into a gray area. For example, it's public knowledge that the electronic voting machines used in some states are completely hackable[0]. Demonstrating that surely isn't propaganda - it's informational and educational to aspiring security researchers. Is YouTube going to ban that too in their crusade against anyone suggesting the election could be hacked? Even worse, the left is pushing very hard to censor any and all information about elections getting hacked. That may or may not be the right solution - I don't know and I don't care. However, if there is any election fraud in 2024 on the part of the GOP, no matter how obvious or visible, the left will have an extremely difficult time convincing anyone that it took place unless they hard-180 on their election fraud stances here. [0]https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/93385-can-the-voting-process-be-hacked https://www.securitymagazine.com/articles/93385-can-the-voti...

umvi 5y ago
> However, if there is any election fraud in 2024 on the part of the GOP, no matter how obvious or visible, the left will have an extremely difficult time convincing anyone that it took place unless they hard-180 on their election fraud stances here. Hard-180s are done all the time, people usually can't remember claims of politicians more than 8 years back. When Trump won there was a significant portion of the left crying election fraud due to "Russian interference". A significant portion of the left claimed Trump "stole" the election from Hillary. The party roles have now reversed, nothing to see here, the roles will surely flip again whenever a party doesn't like the outcome of an election.
- Joker_vD 5y ago
  I do remember how the warnings before and during the 2020 elections about possible Russian meddling stopped precisely the moment it became obvious Trump was going to lose.
tzs 5y ago
If these were to be actual election fraud in 2024 outside of isolated incidents here or there there would be evidence for it. It would then not be false claims, and would not violate YouTube's policy.

umvi 5y ago

> However, if there is any election fraud in 2024 on the part of the GOP, no matter how obvious or visible, the left will have an extremely difficult time convincing anyone that it took place unless they hard-180 on their election fraud stances here. Hard-180s are done all the time, people usually can't remember claims of politicians more than 8 years back. When Trump won there was a significant portion of the left crying election fraud due to "Russian interference". A significant portion of the left claimed Trump "stole" the election from Hillary. The party roles have now reversed, nothing to see here, the roles will surely flip again whenever a party doesn't like the outcome of an election.

Joker_vD 5y ago
I do remember how the warnings before and during the 2020 elections about possible Russian meddling stopped precisely the moment it became obvious Trump was going to lose.

tzs 5y ago

If these were to be actual election fraud in 2024 outside of isolated incidents here or there there would be evidence for it. It would then not be false claims, and would not violate YouTube's policy.