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Russia backs Assad in Syria, who routinely deliberately bombed his own civilians. That seems strictly worse.
by throwaway894345 5y ago
Russia backs Assad in Syria, who routinely deliberately bombed his own civilians. That seems strictly worse.
- Ekaros 5y agoI think we can all agree deliberately bombing other countries civilians is much worse than your own. And USA is clearly doing it.
- throwaway894345 5y agoI don't agree with that at all. Governments should protect their own citizens first and foremost, but deliberately killing civilians anywhere is abhorrent, and the US does not deliberately target civilians. When civilians are killed by the US, it's an accident. Assad kills civilians to send a message. That said, the US should absolutely work to reduce its collateral damage, but let's not pretend that accidentally killing a civilian and bombing a city (because they are disproportionately critical of your dictatorship) are morally equivalent.
- Ekaros 5y agoI would trust USA lot more if everyone from bottom to top involved in any "accident" was summarily executed. Or at least judged by peers of their victims. Like for latest case I say ship everyone in chain of command and involved in manufacturing to Afghanistan and have the local government there deliver the justice they deserve. I would also expand this to known supporters and voters, but that can be next step.
- throwaway894345 5y ago> I would also expand this to known supporters and voters, but that can be next step. So you would massacre tens or hundreds of millions of civilians because accidentally killing civilians is bad? This is the most heinous thing I've ever read on HN. > Or at least judged by peers of their victims. Like for latest case I say ship everyone in chain of command and involved in manufacturing to Afghanistan and have the local government there deliver the justice they deserve. Ironically Afghanistan no longer does trial by peers, they do door to door executions without any kind of trial (certainly not trial by jury of peers). And of course, you're notably silent on deliberately targeting civilians in their thousands, which is what Assad has been doing and the Kremlin implicitly supports.
- Ekaros 5y agoThey kept voting in these bad actors. They clearly support these policies. Otherwise they wouldn't have voted for them.
- throwaway894345 5y agoSo that's a "yes" to my question? > So you would massacre tens or hundreds of millions of civilians because accidentally killing civilians is bad?
- Ekaros 5y agoAt this point I think they could reasonably be considered combatants. After all they have done nothing to prevent murder of civilians even if they have had tools like second amendment exactly designed for this purpose. And no it's not massacre, it's justified death penalty for mass-murderers.
- throwaway894345 5y agoThis is the most abhorrent thing I've ever read on this (or perhaps any) forum. I'm done with this thread.
- Ekaros 5y agoStill doesn't even compare to calling mass-murder "accidents"... Or maybe 9/11 were accidents to you too.
- throwaway210222 5y ago> accidentally killing civilians ? When you are killing children using rocket propelled explosives deliberately launched into crowded urban areas, from high-altitude unmanned vehicles, operated by professional soldiers an ocean away, on intelligence only you have, you are as far away from an accidental killing as is possible. It you hadn't passed another law threatening the Netherlands with an invasion, you might finds yourself having to answer for it.