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Ask a Ukrainian!

• datameta 5y ago
  Or a Georgian, or a Chechen.
  • the-dude 5y ago
    Can we conclude from your example and your parents' that for Germany the term is hyperbole?
    • datameta 5y ago
      I am not quite sure what you are saying or implying. What parent comment is pointing out is that Russia has invaded sovereign nations (cultural and economic allies) in the 21st century. In one instance of such it would go on to vehemently deny its involvement.
      • the-dude 5y ago
        That is not a hegemony right?
        • datameta 5y ago
          From wikipedia: > Hegemony is the political, economic, or military predominance of one state over other states.
          • the-dude 5y ago
            So it isn't. Why don't you answer the question yourself?
            • datameta 5y ago
              Please explain how an invasion of a sovereign nation does not qualify as military predominance.
      • Iwan-Zotow 5y ago
        Looks like US and NATO doing it all the time - well, till someone like taliban kicks them out
        • throwaway894345 5y ago
          > well, till someone like taliban kicks them out You might want to learn your history if you think Russia has never been kicked out by "someone like the Taliban". Mind you, Afghanistan was a much more peaceful country before the USSR invaded, but I won't fault a country too harshly for the impossible-to-predict consequences of meddling; however, I will fault a country for the motives of their meddling in the first place. E.g., does a country meddle to support or overthrow a violent regime? Do they aspire to liberate or oppress?
          • Iwan-Zotow 5y ago
            > Mind you, Afghanistan was a much more peaceful country before the USSR invaded Really? Where did you get that notion? As far as I know, it was under military junta rule > E.g., does a country meddle to support or overthrow a violent regime? And? Daud regime in Afghanistan was violent, isn't it?
• teekert 5y ago
  Yes, and then we ask an Iranian what being influenced by the US means, and we stop all international collaboration and just focus on the EU. But then we shouldn't ask southern Europeans what northern European influencing is... I get that horrible things have happened, and nations did horrible things to each other. But we are citizens and I wish nothing but the best for citizens of other countries. I don't want war or influencing. I would like my gas to be a bit cheaper and preferably cleaner. Power to Iranian, Ukranian, Russian, EU and US (and all) citizens. I hope we can one day untangle our leaders from the companies in our countries and just make them do what is best for us.
  • datameta 5y ago
    I can see your words are amicable but drawing an equivalence of wrongdoing to another wrongdoer does not exonerate the former (Russia).
    • throwaway210222 5y ago
      > but drawing an equivalence of wrongdoing to another wrongdoer does not exonerate the former (Russia). Incorrect, it completely exonerates them if you are going to merrily let the the other wrongdoer carry on with the offending behaviour. If you disagree, ask what's the moral case for not dealing the other wrongdoer tomorrow morning?
      • datameta 5y ago
        My deep embarassment at the peace wrecking actions of the other wrongdoer (USA) as a citizen of the country in no way diminishes my absolute condemnation of Russia's actions toward Ukraine, as someone whose ancestry is from both the perpetrator and victim nation.
        • throwaway210222 5y ago
          My thoughts exactly. So lets deal with Russia today, and de-fang the USA tomorrow at 9am. No? Why not? See?