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Solar pannels don't work at night and you can't ask the enemy to attack on sunny days.
by kongin 5y ago
Solar pannels don't work at night and you can't ask the enemy to attack on sunny days.
- throaway46546 5y agoI think there might be a correlation between sunny days and AC usage.
- kongin 5y agoYou also use AC to heat the tens at night in the desert.
- nix23 5y agoThere's that crazy idea called batteries. For "bigger" stuff one could produce hydrogen during the day (for fuel-cells or straight up burning in combustion engines). But yeah i would too, not use solar-panels in a warzone.
- bborud 5y agoWhy would you want to introduce complex, hard to move storage technology that produces and consumes enormous amounts of explosive gas, and has much, much higher energy loss than both thermal and electrical storage? Whenever hydrogen turns up in discussions about energy storage people tend to forget physics and the infrastructure reality of dealing with electrolysis, compression and liquefaction and powercells ... which ultimately charge batteries so you can buffer energy to deal with varying consumption.
- nix23 5y ago>which ultimately charge batteries so you can buffer energy to deal with varying consumption. It's just one thing, storage huge amounts of energy in liq. hydrogen is easier then in batteries (who are explosive as well) and heavy. But again...i would not use one of those technologies at all in a War-zone..all of them are way too complex for the field.
- bborud 5y agoNo, it isn't easier. Which you would know if you had bothered actually reading up on the matter.
- nix23 5y agoSo at tank is more complicated than a battery...tell that ~every single rocket.
- bborud 5y agoStoring energy as hydrogen involves a lot more than just a tank. Again, you obviously didn't bother reading up on this and you are guessing how hydrogen based energy systems work. You clearly don't.
- nix23 5y agoBS, for liq. hydrogen you need to perfectly isolate it and that's it, the Adrianne rocket could achieve that with a 1.3mm think tank. And storing compressed hydrogen needs nothing more then a Gas tank like the one under your Grill. You even use compressed hydrogen for welding. Again, you know nothing and try to blind everyone with your highly secret knowledge. https://energies.airliquide.com/resources-planet-hydrogen/how-hydrogen-stored https://energies.airliquide.com/resources-planet-hydrogen/ho... >>For example, the tanks on the Ariane launcher, designed and manufactured by Air Liquide, contain the 28 tons of liquid hydrogen that will provide fuel to the central engine. These tanks are a genuine example of technological prowess: they weigh only 5.5 tons empty and their casing is not more than 1.3 mm thick.
- bborud 5y agoThere is nothing "secret" about the challenges of turning energy into hydrogen and then back into heat or electricity. The challenges of each step along the energy chain are pretty well understood. You make the naive assumption that you temporarily storing hydrogen in a tank with 1.3mm thick walls that needs to last for, at most, a couple of days, has any relevance for permanent energy installations. If you are going to argue for an energy storage technology you have to consider what it would actually look like in practice. And since you only want to consider one part of the chain: I suggest you look into what it takes to safely store hydrogen in a vehicle and how this compares to your naive belief that hydrogen behaves like liquids that you have an intuitive understanding of. (Spoiler: you'd have a hard time convincing authorities to let you drive around traffic with a 1.3mm thick tank in the back of your car). Then again, I don't think you want to actually know anything about this. I think you only want to argue and you are annoyed that someone called you out.