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I strongly disagree. Bad security is worse than no security. It's better to disable FaceID when the security of the system has been breached rather than to limp

I strongly disagree. Bad security is worse than no security. It's better to disable FaceID when the security of the system has been breached rather than to limp on regardless.

echelon 5y ago
Don't jump through hoops to defend this company. This device spies on your files for "CSAM" or whatever, but you think it's going out on a limb to save you when the screen breaks? Security theater. But in all honestly it's just a ploy to sell you more garbage that you don't own and can't repair yourself.
- oreilles 5y ago
  CSAM has nothing to do with device security but with privacy. This is off topic. Also, CSAM is entirely optional anyway, you can just not use iCloud if you don't want to be "spied on" by Apple, and I write this in brackets because willingfully sending unencrypted files to Apple doesn't really quallify as being spied on by them. This is not about defending Apple, I don't support the CSAM scanning feature neither as I find it useless and insulting.
  - echelon 5y ago
    You're not getting it. You wouldn't put your data in a device that leaks it without your consent, would you? What's the security model what is effectively Hawking radiation? How can we frame a device that talks directly to big brother as secure without mental gymnastics? Replace "CSAM" with "unapproved thoughts" and look to how Apple caved to Putin just days ago. The CSAM system will be used to benefit the FSB and other intelligence organizations. Optional today is mandatory tomorrow. This will come back to haunt us. The device and the company are wholly compromised and morally bankrupt.
- threeseed 5y ago
  a) CSAM detection is already done server-side. Client-side was to increase user privacy. b) It's only for iCloud Photo Library. c) You shouldn't use SaaS platforms if you are worried about CSAM detection. They are required by law to take reasonable efforts to prevent the storage and dissemination of CSAM.
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I strongly disagree. Bad security is worse than no security. It's better to disable FaceID when the security of the system has been breached rather than to limp on regardless.

echelon 5y ago

Don't jump through hoops to defend this company. This device spies on your files for "CSAM" or whatever, but you think it's going out on a limb to save you when the screen breaks? Security theater. But in all honestly it's just a ploy to sell you more garbage that you don't own and can't repair yourself.

oreilles 5y ago
CSAM has nothing to do with device security but with privacy. This is off topic. Also, CSAM is entirely optional anyway, you can just not use iCloud if you don't want to be "spied on" by Apple, and I write this in brackets because willingfully sending unencrypted files to Apple doesn't really quallify as being spied on by them. This is not about defending Apple, I don't support the CSAM scanning feature neither as I find it useless and insulting.
- echelon 5y ago
  You're not getting it. You wouldn't put your data in a device that leaks it without your consent, would you? What's the security model what is effectively Hawking radiation? How can we frame a device that talks directly to big brother as secure without mental gymnastics? Replace "CSAM" with "unapproved thoughts" and look to how Apple caved to Putin just days ago. The CSAM system will be used to benefit the FSB and other intelligence organizations. Optional today is mandatory tomorrow. This will come back to haunt us. The device and the company are wholly compromised and morally bankrupt.
threeseed 5y ago
a) CSAM detection is already done server-side. Client-side was to increase user privacy. b) It's only for iCloud Photo Library. c) You shouldn't use SaaS platforms if you are worried about CSAM detection. They are required by law to take reasonable efforts to prevent the storage and dissemination of CSAM.
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