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Telegram is great!

• deepsun 5y ago
  Telegram is not even in "secure" category, according to Bruce Schneier and other security researchers. They also meddled with Russian elections this year, blocking opposition bots, but allowing govt bots.
  • bmarquez 5y ago
    "Meddling" with Russian elections is a pretty strong statement, they just followed what Apple and Google did, and there was lots of discussion on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28655937 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28655937 Telegram is not E2E encrypted by default, so the other comment makes sense.
    • deepsun 5y ago
      Good question btw: Do Signal owners have capability to selectively block chats/groups?
      • maqp 5y ago
        Nope. WA uses server-side group management, with Signal its purely on user-side. The message is revealed to be a group message on client-side. In theory, since the group messages are a burst of packets of the same size, the server can distinguish between messages to groups,and drop them if it wants to, but that would be interference of communication which, IIUC, is a felony.
• krater23 5y ago
  Maybee as good as ICQ
• maqp 5y ago
  -Not end-to-end encrypted by default (on any platform) -No end-to-end encryption for groups (on any platform) -No end-to-end encrypted desktop chats (Win/Linux) -No cross-platform end-to-end encrypted chats (iOS) -No end-to-end encrypted group (video) calls Great, for Durov if he wants your data, and all entities hacking their server for your data. Not that great for you.