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Seeing this here, I can't help but feel that there were some good stuff in the vision for the future of xml. I'm not saying we should bring back xml, but maybe

by im3w1l 5y ago

Seeing this here, I can't help but feel that there were some good stuff in the vision for the future of xml. I'm not saying we should bring back xml, but maybe a few of the ideas should be salvaged.

vbezhenar 5y ago
Namespaces, schema. Though I think that namespaces are pretty trivial to add to Json. At least in a primitive form. Just add key “namespace” to some object. And there’re multiple efforts to make Json Schema. But so far most of APIs that I saw, do not use those.
- brundolf 5y ago
  GraphQL could almost be seen as an attempt to standardize on that
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  JSONSchema is alive and well, at least in OpenAPI.
- lmm 5y ago
  Namespaces and schema were exactly what was wrong with XML.
- jdeisenberg 5y ago
  XML Schema, unfortunately, won out over RelaxNG (https://relaxng.org/ https://relaxng.org/) which has a much more solid mathematical basis and (in my opinion) is much more direct and simple than XML Schema.
rjsw 5y ago
Has XML gone away ? I'm working on a project that uses it.
- agumonkey 5y ago
  not gone away, just not the revolution on top of which everything computing will be based on
- tdhz77 5y ago
  I’m working with it. It’s not really that advantageous for this project. US code is outputted in XML and I’m having to write a of code to find certain attributes to render on a page. Seems like it will break very easily on xml updates.
- Devasta 5y ago
  Its temporarily retreated on the web, but its still used heavily in finance. The SWIFT network is looking to migrate to XML in the next few years, and to my knowledge FedWire is looking to do the same.
- im3w1l 5y ago
  Well we certainly didn't build an xml semantic web rendered to xhtml using xslt stylesheets. And xmlhttprequest is mostly used to fetch json. And I don't think xml is used that much for new protocols or fileformats anymore either.
stickfigure 5y ago
I'm pretty comfortable saying we should bring back XML. Not for RPC-ish protocols; JSON is a much better fit. But certainly every single place that YAML is used.

by im3w1l 5y ago

Seeing this here, I can't help but feel that there were some good stuff in the vision for the future of xml. I'm not saying we should bring back xml, but maybe a few of the ideas should be salvaged.

vbezhenar 5y ago

Namespaces, schema. Though I think that namespaces are pretty trivial to add to Json. At least in a primitive form. Just add key “namespace” to some object. And there’re multiple efforts to make Json Schema. But so far most of APIs that I saw, do not use those.

brundolf 5y ago
GraphQL could almost be seen as an attempt to standardize on that
eyelidlessness 5y ago
JSONSchema is alive and well, at least in OpenAPI.
lmm 5y ago
Namespaces and schema were exactly what was wrong with XML.
jdeisenberg 5y ago
XML Schema, unfortunately, won out over RelaxNG (https://relaxng.org/ https://relaxng.org/) which has a much more solid mathematical basis and (in my opinion) is much more direct and simple than XML Schema.

rjsw 5y ago

Has XML gone away ? I'm working on a project that uses it.

agumonkey 5y ago
not gone away, just not the revolution on top of which everything computing will be based on
tdhz77 5y ago
I’m working with it. It’s not really that advantageous for this project. US code is outputted in XML and I’m having to write a of code to find certain attributes to render on a page. Seems like it will break very easily on xml updates.
Devasta 5y ago
Its temporarily retreated on the web, but its still used heavily in finance. The SWIFT network is looking to migrate to XML in the next few years, and to my knowledge FedWire is looking to do the same.
im3w1l 5y ago
Well we certainly didn't build an xml semantic web rendered to xhtml using xslt stylesheets. And xmlhttprequest is mostly used to fetch json. And I don't think xml is used that much for new protocols or fileformats anymore either.

stickfigure 5y ago

I'm pretty comfortable saying we should bring back XML. Not for RPC-ish protocols; JSON is a much better fit. But certainly every single place that YAML is used.