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I feel that way now but I'm only 37. I knew it was a bit soon so I went to a doctor, and turns out my testosterone is at 250 (whereas at my age it should be ove

I feel that way now but I'm only 37. I knew it was a bit soon so I went to a doctor, and turns out my testosterone is at 250 (whereas at my age it should be over 1,000). No idea if that's something you've already explored, but felt it couldn't hurt to share.

codenesium 5y ago
Same age. Same experience.
gregd 5y ago
This is something I've entirely thought about and likely suffering from. That being said, I am trying some other remedies before I take Androgel or Androderm and they seem to be slightly helping.
hammock 5y ago
>whereas at my age it should be over 1,000 Where did you get that reference range for a 37 year old? I'm not sure that was even true 30 years ago.
- tenaciousDaniel 5y ago
  That's what my doctor told me. I'm sure there are differing opinions but meh whatever, I know it could be higher so that's good enough.
  - bumby 5y ago
    I just looked this up last week and I believe the reference said >950 or so put you in the 97.5 percentile of men 18-39. Found it: it’s actually 916 ng/dL https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20170223/researchers-define-normal-ranges-for-testosterone-levels-in-young-men https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20170223/researche...
tartoran 5y ago
I started taking some Ashwaganda and experienced positive effects so far. Give it a try, maybe it works out for you as well
- tudelo 5y ago
  any more details on "positive effects"? Have you had blood work?
  - tartoran 5y ago
    I’ve done bloodwork prior to taking Ashwaganda and will do again in two to three months. Testosterone was low, not excessively so but was feeling exhausted and unmotivated. Ashwaganda appears to have given me the energy and motivation back but I’ve only been taking it for a week so am not exactly sure how I’ll fare in the longer term. It gave me enough energy to work out now so Im hoping to raise my energy to prior levels or close by.
    - symlinkk 5y ago
      > I’ve only been taking it for a week Why even suggest it then?
    - hnzix 5y ago
      Also worth checking Vitamin D levels - inside all day at the computer, especially with lockdown, can lead to a deficiency which has direct physiological impacts.
    - zebnyc 5y ago
      Do you go to a doctor to prescribe blood work for you? I am interested in doing bloodwork as part of a wellness check to check for deficiencies etc but am unsure about how to approach this.
      - tudelo 5y ago
        If you live in the USA you should be able to order online and then go in person to like a labcorp or whatever. If you ever got a drug test for a job, thats the sort of place that usually does it. I think some states you may need a referral but most you do not. For a hormone related test covering testosterone and other factors it is going to cost >100 dollars.
baremetal 5y ago
exercise daily, especially strength training. get some traditionally manly hobbies like building stuff. it worked for me.
tayo42 5y ago
Your testosterone is supposed to be dropping off as you get older though? Does your doctor actually treat this still?
- 93po 5y ago
  Yes, natural testosterone production decreases throughout your life once you finish puberty. Doctors vary wildly in what levels they will treat. You can find "mens clinics" that will give you testosterone therapy at virtually any blood level, they don't care. They're very expensive though (~$2000+ a year).
93po 5y ago
Your doctor is misinformed. No one except outliers going through puberty have natural testosterone over 1000. The average for someone in their 30s is around 300-400. 250 is on the lower side but not so low that most people with that level would have the symptoms of low testosterone.

codenesium 5y ago

Same age. Same experience.

gregd 5y ago

This is something I've entirely thought about and likely suffering from. That being said, I am trying some other remedies before I take Androgel or Androderm and they seem to be slightly helping.

hammock 5y ago

>whereas at my age it should be over 1,000 Where did you get that reference range for a 37 year old? I'm not sure that was even true 30 years ago.

tenaciousDaniel 5y ago
That's what my doctor told me. I'm sure there are differing opinions but meh whatever, I know it could be higher so that's good enough.
- bumby 5y ago
  I just looked this up last week and I believe the reference said >950 or so put you in the 97.5 percentile of men 18-39. Found it: it’s actually 916 ng/dL https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20170223/researchers-define-normal-ranges-for-testosterone-levels-in-young-men https://www.healio.com/news/endocrinology/20170223/researche...

tartoran 5y ago

I started taking some Ashwaganda and experienced positive effects so far. Give it a try, maybe it works out for you as well

tudelo 5y ago
any more details on "positive effects"? Have you had blood work?
- tartoran 5y ago
  I’ve done bloodwork prior to taking Ashwaganda and will do again in two to three months. Testosterone was low, not excessively so but was feeling exhausted and unmotivated. Ashwaganda appears to have given me the energy and motivation back but I’ve only been taking it for a week so am not exactly sure how I’ll fare in the longer term. It gave me enough energy to work out now so Im hoping to raise my energy to prior levels or close by.
  - symlinkk 5y ago
    > I’ve only been taking it for a week Why even suggest it then?
  - hnzix 5y ago
    Also worth checking Vitamin D levels - inside all day at the computer, especially with lockdown, can lead to a deficiency which has direct physiological impacts.
  - zebnyc 5y ago
    Do you go to a doctor to prescribe blood work for you? I am interested in doing bloodwork as part of a wellness check to check for deficiencies etc but am unsure about how to approach this.
    - tudelo 5y ago
      If you live in the USA you should be able to order online and then go in person to like a labcorp or whatever. If you ever got a drug test for a job, thats the sort of place that usually does it. I think some states you may need a referral but most you do not. For a hormone related test covering testosterone and other factors it is going to cost >100 dollars.

baremetal 5y ago

exercise daily, especially strength training. get some traditionally manly hobbies like building stuff. it worked for me.

tayo42 5y ago

Your testosterone is supposed to be dropping off as you get older though? Does your doctor actually treat this still?

93po 5y ago
Yes, natural testosterone production decreases throughout your life once you finish puberty. Doctors vary wildly in what levels they will treat. You can find "mens clinics" that will give you testosterone therapy at virtually any blood level, they don't care. They're very expensive though (~$2000+ a year).

93po 5y ago

Your doctor is misinformed. No one except outliers going through puberty have natural testosterone over 1000. The average for someone in their 30s is around 300-400. 250 is on the lower side but not so low that most people with that level would have the symptoms of low testosterone.