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Great article. The hot take at the beginning on the end of liberal democracy is a bit silly. Anyone in Melbourne can tell you that the protestors are almost al

by Gatsky 5y ago

Great article. The hot take at the beginning on the end of liberal democracy is a bit silly. Anyone in Melbourne can tell you that the protestors are almost all just looking for a fight with the police while in various states of intoxication. The protests started the day after the path out of lockdown was announced. It started with a tantrum from the construction industry about being shutdown (they’ve been allowed to work all this time), but was then taken over by young men wanting to smash stuff and have a dust up with riot police. It is about as far from BLM as you can imagine.

wombatmobile 5y ago
> The hot take at the beginning on the end of liberal democracy is a bit silly. I found the article difficult to follow because of that. Is it a political statement? A frustrated rant by a concerned parent? A technical article? I read the whole article, but am unclear without going through its references, which I haven't done. This is where an editor, even just a detached friend, would help. Author seems to be saying they have effective telemetric contact tracing apps in Europe? Is he saying the Australian app is based on the European model but has unfixed bugs, or is he saying the Australian app uses a flawed model?
- ImaCake 5y ago
  I agree this needs an editor. It is hard to follow. I can forgive anyone in Australia for being frustrated right now. We have done really well against COVID but the two largest states are in lockdown until vaccination rates get high enough. People need someone of something to blame. Somewhere they can release their rage. Hopefully we will be past all this by christmas.
angelzen 5y ago
The casualness. Construction industry was allowed to work. Turns out the right to work is predicated on the state of the ultimate gauge of human worth, covid-cases-per-million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work
- tomrod 5y ago
  The "allowance" to work started long before COVID-19. Zoning, licensing, etc.
cavisne 5y ago
Yeah no young men looking to smash stuff and fight police in BLM https://fukkot.com/riots/all/ https://fukkot.com/riots/all/
- nsonha 5y ago
  this is not a BLM discussion so idk why you posted those video here
solzh 5y ago
This is blatant misinformation. Melbourne has been the most locked down city in the world. Understandably, the working class for whom WFH is not an option, have had enough. The protests are predominantly second/third generation Mediterranean immigrants, women, and children. As Scandinavia rolls back all restrictions, Australian media work in concert with the government to stifle any dissent as the country spirals deeper into totalitarianism. Citizens are unable to leave the country, a violation of the UN declaration of Human Rights. This is what fascism looks like: https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1441323043687518221 https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1441323043687518221 https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1441687633911074816 https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1441687633911074816 https://twitter.com/K_for_rats/status/1441380783676030983 https://twitter.com/K_for_rats/status/1441380783676030983
- ImaCake 5y ago
  For those not from Australia; we are not about to become a fascist state. The parent comment’s other complaints about inequality are indeed true and our government has failed them. Lockdown sucks and is problematic. There are riots and the media is of course following the government line. But these lockdowns will end and some level of normalcy restored.
- Gatsky 5y ago
  I live in Melbourne. Trust me, I’m not misinformed. You can leave the country by the way (I’ve done it), what is your source?
  - solzh 5y ago
    > If you are an Australian citizen or a permanent resident you cannot leave Australia due to COVID-19 restrictions unless you have an exemption. https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia
    - Gatsky 5y ago
      There is a list of reasonable exemptions including work related travel.

by Gatsky 5y ago

wombatmobile 5y ago

> The hot take at the beginning on the end of liberal democracy is a bit silly. I found the article difficult to follow because of that. Is it a political statement? A frustrated rant by a concerned parent? A technical article? I read the whole article, but am unclear without going through its references, which I haven't done. This is where an editor, even just a detached friend, would help. Author seems to be saying they have effective telemetric contact tracing apps in Europe? Is he saying the Australian app is based on the European model but has unfixed bugs, or is he saying the Australian app uses a flawed model?

ImaCake 5y ago
I agree this needs an editor. It is hard to follow. I can forgive anyone in Australia for being frustrated right now. We have done really well against COVID but the two largest states are in lockdown until vaccination rates get high enough. People need someone of something to blame. Somewhere they can release their rage. Hopefully we will be past all this by christmas.

angelzen 5y ago

The casualness. Construction industry was allowed to work. Turns out the right to work is predicated on the state of the ultimate gauge of human worth, covid-cases-per-million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_work

tomrod 5y ago
The "allowance" to work started long before COVID-19. Zoning, licensing, etc.

cavisne 5y ago

Yeah no young men looking to smash stuff and fight police in BLM https://fukkot.com/riots/all/ https://fukkot.com/riots/all/

nsonha 5y ago
this is not a BLM discussion so idk why you posted those video here

solzh 5y ago

This is blatant misinformation. Melbourne has been the most locked down city in the world. Understandably, the working class for whom WFH is not an option, have had enough. The protests are predominantly second/third generation Mediterranean immigrants, women, and children. As Scandinavia rolls back all restrictions, Australian media work in concert with the government to stifle any dissent as the country spirals deeper into totalitarianism. Citizens are unable to leave the country, a violation of the UN declaration of Human Rights. This is what fascism looks like: https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1441323043687518221 https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1441323043687518221 https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1441687633911074816 https://twitter.com/beingrealmac/status/1441687633911074816 https://twitter.com/K_for_rats/status/1441380783676030983 https://twitter.com/K_for_rats/status/1441380783676030983

ImaCake 5y ago
For those not from Australia; we are not about to become a fascist state. The parent comment’s other complaints about inequality are indeed true and our government has failed them. Lockdown sucks and is problematic. There are riots and the media is of course following the government line. But these lockdowns will end and some level of normalcy restored.
Gatsky 5y ago
I live in Melbourne. Trust me, I’m not misinformed. You can leave the country by the way (I’ve done it), what is your source?
- solzh 5y ago
  > If you are an Australian citizen or a permanent resident you cannot leave Australia due to COVID-19 restrictions unless you have an exemption. https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia
  - Gatsky 5y ago
    There is a list of reasonable exemptions including work related travel.