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Sure, but that’s the Greek mythological version of the Garden of Eden story. I find the reality even more interesting. What were humans thinking about 40,000 y

by jl6 5y ago

Sure, but that’s the Greek mythological version of the Garden of Eden story. I find the reality even more interesting. What were humans thinking about 40,000 years ago, with their modern bodies and brains?

pacman2 5y ago
Were they thinking? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in_the_Breakdown_of_the_Bicameral_Mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in...
- Koshkin 5y ago
  > In ... the book, "The Mind of the Iliad", Jaynes states that people of the era had no consciousness. R-riight...
  - new_guy 5y ago
    > R-riight... Says the guy/gal who dismissed the guys life work because they skimmed a shitty Wikipedia summary for all of 5 seconds. Try actually reading it before commenting.
- dhosek 5y ago
  Ah Julian Jaynes, the Erich von Däniken of psychology.
- DonaldFisk 5y ago
  Of which Richard Dawkins wrote: “It is one of those books that is either complete rubbish or a work of consummate genius, nothing in between! Probably the former, but I’m hedging my bets.”
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Koshkin 5y ago
Even with the abundance of plant and animal food, they were preoccupied with survival. There were too many things to be taken care of: avoiding falling prey to carnivores (including fellow humans), injuries, sickness; need to hunt and/or collect food, tend to children. There was just no time to think about much else. But the prehistoric form of communism made survival easier. In the later, more individualist, times, if you wanted to be able to spend time and your thoughts on something other than mere subsistence, you had to have servants.
- cmrdporcupine 5y ago
  I recall a rather flippant and sensationalist video with a YouTuber interviewing some present day hunter gatherers on more philosophical matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGjuRwx_Y8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGjuRwx_Y8 "Asking Hunter-Gatherers Life's Toughest Questions" I got the impression there was some language barrier stuff going on, but the answer to many questions was... "meat"
- AlotOfReading 5y ago
  Please don't make people out to be weird, primitive aliens when it's completely untrue. If you had ever read any of the numerous ethnographies out there, you'd know that they gossip, tell stories, joke, and complain like any other people. Special emphasis on the complaining and joking, because those tend to be important social behaviors. 'resource-related' discussion happens mainly during work hours and then it's still not the majority of discussion in the numbers I've seen.
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by jl6 5y ago

pacman2 5y ago

Were they thinking? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in_the_Breakdown_of_the_Bicameral_Mind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origin_of_Consciousness_in...

Koshkin 5y ago
> In ... the book, "The Mind of the Iliad", Jaynes states that people of the era had no consciousness. R-riight...
- new_guy 5y ago
  > R-riight... Says the guy/gal who dismissed the guys life work because they skimmed a shitty Wikipedia summary for all of 5 seconds. Try actually reading it before commenting.
dhosek 5y ago
Ah Julian Jaynes, the Erich von Däniken of psychology.
DonaldFisk 5y ago
Of which Richard Dawkins wrote: “It is one of those books that is either complete rubbish or a work of consummate genius, nothing in between! Probably the former, but I’m hedging my bets.”

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Koshkin 5y ago

Even with the abundance of plant and animal food, they were preoccupied with survival. There were too many things to be taken care of: avoiding falling prey to carnivores (including fellow humans), injuries, sickness; need to hunt and/or collect food, tend to children. There was just no time to think about much else. But the prehistoric form of communism made survival easier. In the later, more individualist, times, if you wanted to be able to spend time and your thoughts on something other than mere subsistence, you had to have servants.

cmrdporcupine 5y ago
I recall a rather flippant and sensationalist video with a YouTuber interviewing some present day hunter gatherers on more philosophical matters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGjuRwx_Y8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAGjuRwx_Y8 "Asking Hunter-Gatherers Life's Toughest Questions" I got the impression there was some language barrier stuff going on, but the answer to many questions was... "meat"
AlotOfReading 5y ago
Please don't make people out to be weird, primitive aliens when it's completely untrue. If you had ever read any of the numerous ethnographies out there, you'd know that they gossip, tell stories, joke, and complain like any other people. Special emphasis on the complaining and joking, because those tend to be important social behaviors. 'resource-related' discussion happens mainly during work hours and then it's still not the majority of discussion in the numbers I've seen.

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